Natalie Miller (aka Verge): per her sources, Panthers moved up to #1 to take Bryce Young

[Jon Snow]

50 minutes ago, Panthro said:

I can corroborate the Bryce Young info @Vergeposted. The move to 1 was for Young. That said they do like Stroud and AR and were prepped to take AR if they moved to 3 if they couldn't pckg it to move up again. 

If Houston really loves BY they'll have to pay.  

 

If he is the pick I worry more about him finishing every season on IR than his ability at qb. I've always thought he's the best prepared of the class for the past 2 season's. I do not think he will be the best of the class long term in the nfl. I have concerns about the others as well but not so much about their chances of finishing a season. 

This success of taking Young will come down to him staying off IR for 17 games and through the playoffs.  That is a huge gamble even if he's a great qb. His injury risk is much higher than the other qb's at this level I don't care what any of you say. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Jon Snow

[Shocker]

10 minutes ago, frankw said:

In the CFL yeah. He's in the hall of fame 🫡

Everyone knows this…it doesn’t discount what he did for me.  It isn’t impossible for a small QB to be great given the chance.  He also played a long time.  

[Basbear]

6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If he is the pick I worry more about him finishing every season on IR than his ability at qb. I've always thought he's the best prepared of the class for the past 2 season's. I do not think he will be the best of the class long term in the nfl. I have concerns about the others as well but not so much about their chances of finishing a season. 

This success of taking Young will come down to him staying off IR for 17 games and through the playoffs.  That is a huge gamble even if he's a great qb. His injury risk is much higher than the other qb's at this level I don't care what any of you say. 

I put panthro in the same spot as verge, both have called moves before they happened. 

Add in the david carr stuff, its past time to start listen.....no matter the amount of peanut butter i forced into my ear tunnel..

 

theres still time, but too much to get the sand hole started... 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Everyone knows this…it doesn’t discount what he did for me.  It isn’t impossible for a small QB to be great given the chance.  He also played a long time.  

Well at least he isn't Drew Brees. All you guys that have been spamming his name the last few weeks to boost the case for your favorite prospect should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well at least he isn't Drew Brees. All you guys that have been spamming his name the last few weeks to boost the case for your favorite prospect should be ashamed of yourselves.

If you believe Stroud is the better player I am completely fine with that.  On certain days I feel the same.  It’s a great problem to have picking at #1.  We all pine for our guy.  Good stuff.

I have liked Young for a while now but I haven’t down played Stroud very much.  I do think he played from a clean pocket a lot and had incredible receiving options but he did deliver.  He is a top level prospect and I won’t deny that.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Shocker

[rippadonn]

56 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

EVERYONE on this board gets flack at one point or another. Don't treat her like some fragile woman. Jesus. She can speak up for herself.

[Doyle]

Well I guess it's official then.  Welcome to The Panthers Bryce Young.  Now I can finally sleep at night.  

[frankw]

5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

If you believe Stroud is the better player I am completely fine with that.  On certain days I feel the same.  It’s a great problem to have picking at #1.  We all pine for our guy.  Good stuff.

I have liked Young for a while now but I haven’t down played Stroud very much.  I do think he played from a clean pocket a lot and had incredible receiving options but he did deliver.  He is a top level prospect and I won’t deny that.

Good stuff.

Stroud/Young or Richardson I'll accept and hope for the future with any of those QB's as the pick.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

I put panthro in the same spot as verge, both have called moves before they happened. 

Add in the david carr stuff, its past time to start listen.....no matter the amount of peanut butter i forced into my ear tunnel..

 

theres still time, but too much to get the sand hole started... 

There's been enough speculation out there linking the Panthers to every qb prospect that no matter which one is picked you will be right.

Let me tell you what I've heard from a source about who the Panthers are taking 1st overall. They say it's Bryce Young. But it could be CJ Stroud or Will Levis. But they say the wouldn't be shocked if it's Richardson in the final minutes.  But don't quote me on that.

[OldhamA]

22 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If he is the pick I worry more about him finishing every season on IR than his ability at qb. I've always thought he's the best prepared of the class for the past 2 season's. I do not think he will be the best of the class long term in the nfl. I have concerns about the others as well but not so much about their chances of finishing a season. 

This success of taking Young will come down to him staying off IR for 17 games and through the playoffs.  That is a huge gamble even if he's a great qb. His injury risk is much higher than the other qb's at this level I don't care what any of you say. 

It's not just the injury risk - it's the style of play.

The mini-Mahomes comparison makes me cringe. Mahomes can play that way because he's got a ridiculous arm - that's the only reason those late throws work when he's freelancing. 

With Young a lot of those are going to be INTs or incompletions - he has an average NFL arm.

His best chance of success is to copy Brees imo. 

[Shocker]

Stroud gets talked about in terms of mobility and running but his lack of scrambling ability is overblown.  He is very accurate on the move as a passer.  He is very accurate period.  Extremely impressed with his pinpoint passing from the pocket.  Probably has a slightly better arm than Young.  I personally think Young is a better processor.  Bryce is special there IMO.  Young is just better at the position at pocket awareness and playmaking ability IMO.  Young is a magician in that regard but Stroud is very solid as well.

Edited March 21, 2023 by Shocker

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

It's not just the injury risk - it's the style of play.

The mini-Mahomes comparison makes me cringe. Mahomes can play that way because he's got a ridiculous arm - that's the only reason those late throws work when he's freelancing. 

With Young a lot of those are going to be INTs or incompletions - he has an average NFL arm.

His best chance of success is to copy Brees imo. 

The funny thing is Stroud learned to throw/play the position by watching Drew Brees videos as @ladypantherstated in another thread. 

[Jon Snow]

17 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

It's not just the injury risk - it's the style of play.

The mini-Mahomes comparison makes me cringe. Mahomes can play that way because he's got a ridiculous arm - that's the only reason those late throws work when he's freelancing. 

With Young a lot of those are going to be INTs or incompletions - he has an average NFL arm.

His best chance of success is to copy Brees imo. 

I agree that there are other concerns with Young. He's been working almost exclusively from the shotgun and I know that is due to his size limitations. It allows him time to see the defense reaction better from the snap, which is never mentioned.  There's a lot to critique in his game that just worries me long term. I have as many concerns with the others but on different things that I will not go into here. Let's just say none of them give me confidence our problems will magically be resolved on draft night. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by Jon Snow

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree that there are other concerns with Young. He's been working almost exclusively from the shotgun and I know that is due to his size limitations. It allows him time to see the defense reaction better from the snap, which is never mentioned.  These a lot to critique in his game that just worries me long term. I have as many concerns with the others but on different things that I will not go into here. Let's just say none of them give me confidence our problems will magically be resolved on draft night. 

Whoever drafts him might want to take the QB Sneak out of the playbook. It’s a shame because it’s a high percentage play.