Why Bryce young will be the pick and we should be excited

[Varking]

If Day keeps losing to Michigan he will become an absolute stud of a QB Coach or offensive coordinator for another team. 

[Panthers Fan 69]

8 hours ago, csx said:

Paved the way for letdowns like Kyler Murray 

In all fairness. Murray is a dumb ass that cares more about himself than the team.  

Edited March 18, 2023 by Panthers Fan 69

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

In all fairness. Murray is a dumb ass that cares more about himself than the team.  

In fairness he has been injured every he’s played in the league

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

In all fairness. Murray is a dumb ass that cares more about himself than the team.  

He went to 2 pro bowls--had a terrible year in 2022--but you are not the first to say that about him.

[Martin]

45 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Cam had no OL and he ran the football like a heat seeking missile.  Russell Wilson played the way you describe--at 204 pounds--and he missed 4 games in 11 seasons in Seattle.  Fitterer saw him do it.

Young’s actual playing weight is closer to 180 if I understand correctly. Wilson played at 205, so it is a huge difference. Maybe Young can play at 205, but if so, why didn’t he?

[MHS831]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

In fairness he has been injured every he’s played in the league

His playing style is more aggressive and what worked in high school and college for him (running) is probably not the ticket for a long NFL career.  I am interested to see what this new coach does with him.

[MHS831]

The best reason to pick Young over Stroud?  If I were the GM, I would take Stroud.  I like Young a lot, but Stroud has done what was asked of him at a very high level, and he is accurate, smooth, and unflappable.  You can say the same for Young. So does this come down to processing and size?  If the processing is not clearly advantage Young, I'd go with Stroud.

For the Record, I am terrible at predicting success for NFL QBs. 

[Shocker]

19 minutes ago, Varking said:

If Day keeps losing to Michigan he will become an absolute stud of a QB Coach or offensive coordinator for another team. 

[Varking]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

The best reason to pick Young over Stroud?  If I were the GM, I would take Stroud.  I like Young a lot, but Stroud has done what was asked of him at a very high level, and he is accurate, smooth, and unflappable.  You can say the same for Young. So does this come down to processing and size?  If the processing is not clearly advantage Young, I'd go with Stroud.

For the Record, I am terrible at predicting success for NFL QBs. 

You can look at my post history. Wanting us to trade up to pair Burrow with The OC we got from LSU. 
 

Before the draft I became sold on Herbert. 
 

I’ve always been anti Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. Obviously felt Lawrence would make a good pro and I wanted us to draft Fields, who I think takes a significant step forward passing the ball this season…

I wasn’t too concerned with QBs before that because we have had Cam on the roster. 
 

Im not confident Young stays healthy for years in the NFL and when a smaller guy like him gets the legs dinged up a bit how elusive will he be in the pocket? It’s those minor dings that lead to the major ones. 
 

Strouds been my pick since October on this message board and I’m confident the Carolina Panthers get better, faster, with CJ Stroud than we do with Young because we are going to have years where Young misses the bulk of the snaps due to injury. 

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, Martin said:

Young’s actual playing weight is closer to 180 if I understand correctly. Wilson played at 205, so it is a huge difference. Maybe Young can play at 205, but if so, why didn’t he?

Bryce young is obviously at least 30 pounds lighter than Wilson. Wilson plays at 215, he went up to 225 after injuries in 2017 and has to work/diet to play at 215. Completely different frames

[SmokinwithWilly]

25 minutes ago, Varking said:

If Day keeps losing to Michigan he will become an absolute stud of a QB Coach or offensive coordinator for another team. 

 

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

Young's playing weight is 35 pounds lighter that Wilson. Wilson was mobile. Young is not particularly quick or mobile. Young's arm is average, at best. I pray that the Panthers do not draft Young.

So you are saying the Young played at 170 lbs?  That would mean that he gained 34 lbs between early January and early March.

I guess the better question is this:  Where is the line (weight) that determines a player is too small to play QB in the NFL? 

I literally do not know, but I can say that QBs are babied now, protected like the Pope at a biker convention.  Since the QB started getting protected more, the smaller QBs have emerged.  The game has changed as well.  So if you teach a player to slide and check down quicky (which he can do) and throw it out of bounds, can you prolong his career?  Russell Wilson did that better than anyone, and he missed 4 games in 11 seasons in Seattle.  

Young needs to add size--muscle weight and there seems to be room for it.  

I prefer Stroud, but if we go with Young, I know we are getting a solid, smart, QB. 

Edited March 18, 2023 by MHS831

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

10 hours ago, RIPTreyLance said:

Think about this. Fitterer came from Seattle where he had Russell Wilson. He’s quite undersized and had an amazing Seattle career. If rumor is true Tepper likes Bryce Young as well, it just makes sense he will be the guy especially if he shows out at his pro day. The size thing. Y’all are overthinking it. 
 

and why should we be excited? A Russell Wilson in his prime was fun to watch and Bryce young is a lot like him in my opinion. Our version of him could be even better. That will be must watch football. Let’s be honest all of you would take Prime Russell right now… 

People are gonna call me crazy but hey. Check my last posts. I always get poo’d and yet I’m always right. I said last YEAR WE SHOULD TRADE CMC AND DJ MOORE for the highest capital possible because we just weren’t gonna get it done with them due to other circumstances. Called that. *shrugs* 

 

Bryce young will be the pick. 

No thanks. A Russell Wilson in his prime is looking more and more like a byproduct of Pete Carroll’s coaching ability. 
 

Please don’t compare Bryce to Russ. 

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, travisura said:

We need threads for Levis, Richardson, and the two draft superstars, Ahlers and Bennett.