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Marc Ryan - "Carolina Zeroed in on Stroud and Richardson"

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5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think he may be less raw than people are thinking.  I could see a team incorporating an offense similar to the Eagles last year and running a lot of plays with AR helping get his feet wet in year one.  

I don’t want to have to do that for the 1st pick in the draft.. 
Come up with gadget plays just to get him playing time??? 
We gave up 3 picks and our number 1 Wr for that??

And you literally just described what San Fran did with Lance..

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I kind of look at this way. If I'm Fit and Reich am I risking my last chance as a coach and GM on the incredible rawness of Anthony Richardson? Maybe I'm adverse to extreme risk, but I am certainly not. I would go with the somewhat less risker option with a probable great return. Which in this case would be Young or Stroud.

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3 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

I don’t want to have to do that for the 1st pick in the draft.. 
Come up with gadget plays just to get him playing time??? 
We gave up 3 picks and our number 1 Wr for that??

And you literally just described what San Fran did with Lance..

To be 1000% clear, he isn't my top choice for pick 1.  I prefer Stroud and Young over him.  I just think he is further along than people are thinking and will probably be playing some in year 1.  That Florida offense had him looking a lot worse than he is.  I saw a lot of drop backs, going through reads, and WRs dropping nice throws.  

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1 minute ago, Jaxel said:

I kind of look at this way. If I'm Fit and Reich am I risking my last chance as a coach and GM on the incredible rawness of Anthony Richardson? Maybe I'm adverse to extreme risk, but I am certainly not. I would go with the somewhat less risker option with a probable great return. Which in this case would be Young or Stroud.

Even if I’m tepper,. I took the big swing 7 years 70 million dollars thinking I’ve found the next Jimmie Johnson in college.. 

Why would he be talked into doing it again..

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2 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I kind of look at this way. If I'm Fit and Reich am I risking my last chance as a coach and GM on the incredible rawness of Anthony Richardson? Maybe I'm adverse to extreme risk, but I am certainly not. I would go with the somewhat less risker option with a probable great return. Which in this case would be Young or Stroud.

It's like someone said earlier in the eval process.....

A coach can risk being fired over Anthony Richardson. If you select him and he busts, you're fired. If you don't select him and he becomes the next great QB, you better hope "your guy" is a franchise QB or else.

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1 minute ago, Soul Rebel said:

It's like someone said earlier in the eval process.....

A coach can risk being fired over Anthony Richardson. If you select him and he busts, you're fired. If you don't select him and he becomes the next great QB, you better hope "your guy" is a franchise QB or else.

Well by that standard you have 2x the chance not selecting him than selecting him.

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6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

To be 1000% clear, he isn't my top choice for pick 1.  I prefer Stroud and Young over him.  I just think he is further along than people are thinking and will probably be playing some in year 1.  That Florida offense had him looking a lot worse than he is.  I saw a lot of drop backs, going through reads, and WRs dropping nice throws.  

I get that .. I still disagree with the opinion on Richardson and just need you to explain to me why you have that Opinion..

let’s be real.. AR  has been in The Florida program since 2020 but couldn’t win the starting job until 2022 .. Emory nor Luke whatever we’re good QB’s but they held AR back for 2 years .. How??

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1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

Would make absolutely 0 sense to trade up to 1 for Richardson, if you trade down to 3 or 4 for him then why trade up to 1 in the first place. Probably could've kept DJ and gave up a little less to get to 3 and get him. 

I think I've seen it reported that no team in the history of the NFL draft has ever traded up to #1 and then traded out of it. The Panthers would be stupid as hell to be the first team to do so 

who are you to say he will for sure be there at 3-4? 

 

just because dumb dumb TV internet guy has a list of best to worst doesnt mean its accurate worth a poo.  who knows whats going on in the war rooms of the teams in the top.  

 

Mike Mayock prime example. 

 

just sit back and let Fitt do his thing 

 

not saying we should take Richardson at one.  just calling out fans thinking they know how the board is gunna fall

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28 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Yes really it is .. Stop watching hype video where they only show you the good plays.. He missed more short easy throw then anybody I’ve ever seen .. If another team play a zone he was lost completely.. If they stopped the run the game was over and look like Darnold in NO last season.. 

I have no clue what you think you saw but this kid maybe just as raw or even less prepared to play then Malik last year and the “real” Tape says this..

I'm sorry, I can't take you seriously. I've watched every game I can find of each of the top four. Stroud, Levis, and Richardson I've often watched games 2-4 times.

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1 hour ago, Ornias said:

Teams have too much time now between combine and the draft. I am afraid we will talk ourselves out of the best choice. 

Yeah. Certainly looks like we moved up not being in love with anyone and would “figure it out”.  

which I don’t love. 

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