Ranking the offseason moves so far.

[panther4life]

This is just my opinion of the order of importance/overall good for the long term health of this team.

1. The big trade up to number 1.

• I love this move for obvious reasons. We need a franchise QB and the front office/coaching staff in collaboration think there's at least 1 here and they have the ability to vet them until the draft comes to make sure everyone is on the same page. The timing of it before free agency removes a lot of uncertainty and helps pave a clearer path of how to move forward with the rest of the offseason.  I hate that we had to give up D.J Moore but in the end this was a fair deal that should benefit both teams in the long run in theory, pending the success of the QB we take and Justin Fields success moving forward.

2. The coaching staff

• Most anyone would agree this coaching staff on paper is a home run. From retaining the good coaches and adding a nice mixture of wisdom and young talent this went about as good as anyone could ask for. This only ranks behind the big trade for me, because I personally believe no matter how good of a coaching staff we hired, if we didn't make the move to 1 and ended up with Derek Carr, Jimmy Garrapolo or worse at QB the ceiling would have been pretty low for this staff.

3. Re-signing Bozeman 3 yrs, 18 million,10 million guaranteed at signing

• We finally have a respectable O-line again and for the first time in almost 15 years we will repeat the same starting 5 again. Everyone realizes the value Bozeman brings to this team.

4. Signing Von Bell (Strong Safety) 3 yrs 22.5 million,  13 million guaranteed at signing

• He's an enforcer that flies all over the field. A veteran presence and still only 28 years old. Should add a lot of flexibility to our defense. He is very reliable and virtually plays every snap (averaged 98.5% of defensive snaps last 4 years). According to NFL Next gen stats he's tied for 5th in pressures generated from a DB (13) since 2021. From the same source he's also 4th in tackles made 20+ yards from snap to tackle (19 total) since 2021

5. Signing Miles Sanders (RB) 4 yrs 25 Million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• In 4 his year career he's averaging 5 YPC over but still has plenty of tread left with only 739 carries so far. He's shown incredible consistency and last year he had a career high in rushing TD's. He should be well prepared to take some heat off the rookie QB and assist in keeping the down and distance shorter, especially behind this o-line. 

6.  Signing Shy Tuttle (DT) 3 years, 19.5 million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• Didn't appear to be too many choices for a mid tier DT that can play nose in the 3-4. Hopefully he will be an impact player and prove worthy of being a starter. 

7. Signing Hayden Hurst (TE) 3 years, 21.75 million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• Tight ends have quietly become an expensive position in the NFL. Hayden's contract seemed like a lot at first glance, but it actually puts him in the middle of the pack for starting T.E's and thats basically what has play has been thus far. So a nice upgrade for us at the position and our first reliable pass catcher at the position since 2019 (Greg Olsen). 

8. Signing Deshawn Williams DE, no contract terms available yet.

• Looks like a career journeymen who finally caught on and had a decent season last year under our new defensive coordinator Evero. Terms of the deal haven't been disclosed yet but seems unlikely it will be a significant investment.

9. Signing Andy Dalton QB

• There was no shortage of backup QB'S this year. It was something we needed and someone who can guide the rookie, plus also play a few games if needed. Dalton checks all those boxes. Just by the sheer plethora of QB's of his stature available, I rank this one the lowest, while still being appreciative and liking every move made so far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JawnyBlaze]

I’d mostly agree. I’d put the coaching staff at #1 and Sanders over Bell, but not by wide margins.  Easily the most interesting and promising off-season in panthers history after the very first heh

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, panther4life said:

This is just my opinion of the order of importance/overall good for the long term health of this team.

1. The big trade up to number 1.

• I love this move for obvious reasons. We need a franchise QB and the front office/coaching staff in collaboration think there's at least 1 here and they have the ability to vet them until the draft comes to make sure everyone is on the same page. The timing of it before free agency removes a lot of uncertainty and helps pave a clearer path of how to move forward with the rest of the offseason.  I hate that we had to give up D.J Moore but in the end this was a fair deal that should benefit both teams in the long run in theory, pending the success of the QB we take and Justin Fields success moving forward.

2. The coaching staff

• Most anyone would agree this coaching staff on paper is a home run. From retaining the good coaches and adding a nice mixture of wisdom and young talent this went about as good as anyone could ask for. This only ranks behind the big trade for me, because I personally believe no matter how good of a coaching staff we hired, if we didn't make the move to 1 and ended up with Derek Carr, Jimmy Garrapolo or worse at QB the ceiling would have been pretty low for this staff.

3. Re-signing Bozeman 3 yrs, 18 million,10 million guaranteed at signing

• We finally have a respectable O-line again and for the first time in almost 15 years we will repeat the same starting 5 again. Everyone realizes the value Bozeman brings to this team.

4. Signing Von Bell (Strong Safety) 3 yrs 22.5 million,  13 million guaranteed at signing

• He's an enforcer that flies all over the field. A veteran presence and still only 28 years old. Should add a lot of flexibility to our defense. He is very reliable and virtually plays every snap (averaged 98.5% of defensive snaps last 4 years). According to NFL Next gen stats he's tied for 5th in pressures generated from a DB (13) since 2021. From the same source he's also 4th in tackles made 20+ yards from snap to tackle (19 total) since 2021

5. Signing Miles Sanders (RB) 4 yrs 25 Million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• In 4 his year career he's averaging 5 YPC over but still has plenty of tread left with only 739 carries so far. He's shown incredible consistency and last year he had a career high in rushing TD's. He should be well prepared to take some heat off the rookie QB and assist in keeping the down and distance shorter, especially behind this o-line. 

6.  Signing Shy Tuttle (DT) 3 years, 19.5 million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• Didn't appear to be too many choices for a mid tier DT that can play nose in the 3-4. Hopefully he will be an impact player and prove worthy of being a starter. 

7. Signing Hayden Hurst (TE) 3 years, 21.75 million, 13 million guaranteed at signing

• Tight ends have quietly become an expensive position in the NFL. Hayden's contract seemed like a lot at first glance, but it actually puts him in the middle of the pack for starting T.E's and thats basically what has play has been thus far. So a nice upgrade for us at the position and our first reliable pass catcher at the position since 2019 (Greg Olsen). 

8. Signing Deshawn Williams DE, no contract terms available yet.

• Looks like a career journeymen who finally caught on and had a decent season last year under our new defensive coordinator Evero. Terms of the deal haven't been disclosed yet but seems unlikely it will be a significant investment.

9. Signing Andy Dalton QB

• There was no shortage of backup QB'S this year. It was something we needed and someone who can guide the rookie, plus also play a few games if needed. Dalton checks all those boxes. Just by the sheer plethora of QB's of his stature available, I rank this one the lowest, while still being appreciative and liking every move made so far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agree except for #1...

Move it to bottom and all others up 1.

[The Huddler]

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

Agree except for #1...

Move it to bottom and all others up 1.

[glenwo2]

I agree with 1 through 8.

 

Still think the Panthers could've done better than Dalton.  

[Ornias]

1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:

I agree with 1 through 8.

 

Still think the Panthers could've done better than Dalton.  

If Dalton plays the season is probably lost anyway. 

[jayboogieman]

Joking aside, it's way too soon to tell.

Edited March 18, 2023 by jayboogieman

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Ornias said:

If Dalton plays the season is probably lost anyway. 

He will definitely play.

[Camp Fodder]

8 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I’d mostly agree. I’d put the coaching staff at #1 and Sanders over Bell, but not by wide margins.  Easily the most interesting and promising off-season in panthers history after the very first heh

Agree 100 percent. The trade could end up being number 1 but for now it’s number 2 due to the unknown of who they are taking  and how losing DJ depleted our WR core. Adding a pro bowl SB running back is huge