Adam Schefter: Bryce Young is believed to be favorite for #1 for the Panthers right now

[Ivory Panther]

3 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Just watching everything I have seen from Young, I seriously don't think his style of play will translate to the NFL. He won't be able to scramble around every play to find a passing lane at the NFL level. He is get killed

I disagree…

[top dawg]

40 minutes ago, frankw said:

One could certainly argue you being emotional enough to poo a post over a disagreement over a draft prospect is an example of fragility but do you

As far as talent between Stroud and Young neither has built a huge gap. They are both talented and check many boxes. There are small cons here and there where they are different. The biggest for Young is plainly obvious. But only the pro Young camp are making it their mission to belittle CJ Stroud as a passer. That's just blatantly being disingenuous. His game tape speaks for itself. Folks making things up about him are doing so to mask the valid concerns about Bryce Young's frame. It's played out.

Making a big-to-do about Young's size is played out as well as far as I'm concerned. Each player and each situation is different. 

As for Stroud, it's easier to appear great when you have lesser competition. Will he be that great when that NFL talent l pressuring him week in and week out? And what about his lack of vocality (some might say leadership)?

Look I have no dog in the fight. I will happily accept either of the two. But, I've read the scouting reports and am very aware that but for size, there wouldn't even be a discussion. But for all the talk, Young played more games in a much tougher conference, and only missed one game, just like Stroud. 

 

[ECHornet]

6 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Just watching everything I have seen from Young, I seriously don't think his style of play will translate to the NFL. He won't be able to scramble around every play to find a passing lane at the NFL level. He is get killed

What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams?

[*FreeFua*]

16 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

 

 

10 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

They’re really trying their best to get the Texans to think they’re taking Young in hopes of a trade by getting Shefter involved 

Yep

[ForJimmy]

People keep bringing up Young’s SEC competition. Aside from UGA (who Stroud played) which team had an elite defense that he played? LSU’s defense wasn’t what it normally was, Ole Miss was an offensive team, Auburn was a shell of itself? I know several BIG10 schools were ranked on the top 10 defenses when Stroud played them. Stroud WRs are a much better arguing point than his competition. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

I don't see it happening.

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams?

What is his height/weight?

[ECHornet]

21 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

What is his height/weight?

lol

6’1 , 210

[CPcavedweller]

16 hours ago, w280sax said:

That's an odd quote from schefter since sf didn't ultimately take Mac Jones.  I'm not sure I completely understand his point.

He's saying it's a smoke screen. He seems to think that Mac Jones would be the pick that the staff wants but something changes and they end up taking Richardson, or Stroud (I hope). 

[CPcavedweller]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

lol

6’1 , 210

Big difference between 5'10 and 205 when you've been lifting hard for four months to get to that weight and 6'1 210 playing weight. Caleb Williams also runs a 4.5 and has elite arm strength. Young's arm won't blow you away, Caleb Williams has the arm of a 6'5 QB in a 6'1 body. 

[Losovoevosseniorcapspeciai]

Sorry for the off topic - does anyone know why when I click on “Start new topic” and scroll through options, the only one I can actually click on is “Nfl”. The rest are greyed out. I’d like to post some relevant statistics to our new qb feud. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

lol

6’1 , 210

I honestly haven't followed him that much, but if he is taking a bunch of hits (I know he got injured last year), he will need to adjust his playing style as well.  People like to reference Mahomes, well yeah that backyard football style translating to the NFL is as likely as AR becoming the next Josh Allen.  Also Mahomes has mastered extending plays without taking as many hits.  He loves to tip top the sidelines and step out of bounds before contact.  That's the main advice Rodgers gave Burrow during his sophomore year.  "learn to slide, and don't take so many hits."  

The good news is Young is probably the smartest QB in the draft and will put in the hours to adjust his style (at least I hope so).  They all will have adjustments to make as rookies.  

[ECHornet]

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I honestly haven't followed him that much, but if he is taking a bunch of hits (I know he got injured last year), he will need to adjust his playing style as well.  People like to reference Mahomes, well yeah that backyard football style translating to the NFL is as likely as AR becoming the next Josh Allen.  Also Mahomes has mastered extending plays without taking as many hits.  He loves to tip top the sidelines and step out of bounds before contact.  That's the main advice Rodgers gave Burrow during his sophomore year.  "learn to slide, and don't take so many hits."  

The good news is Young is probably the smartest QB in the draft and will put in the hours to adjust his style (at least I hope so).  They all will have adjustments to make as rookies.  

It’s hard to describe intangibles sometimes. I view Young as savvy to a degree that will be above average his first year. He seems to also have that same sense as Mahomes to avoid the direct blows. He’s far more elusive than Stroud. I predict Stroud will take more direct hits that could lead to injury than Young. 

[rippadonn]

They're trying to use Bryce Young. Stop the foolishness and move on with the #1, stop the f'n games which benefit NOBODY.

There is only one player THIS draft that qualifies for a jump from #9 to #1.

It's Stroud. Stop the smokescreens, leaks, stalling, staring down, they're not going to blink.

They're waiting for you to proclaim what everyone knows already ITS STROUD, stop playing games and celebrate, get to know him and let us freaking rest on teh huddle you cheeky card hiding, fooler of nobody.

There's nothing wrong with being honest and deliberate instead of cloak and dagger, fooling only ones self and wasting our f'n time and doing gymnastics on our nerves.