Panthers Free Agent Updates

[PappyMay]

People think we over paid a bit, but every year the cap goes up and the market resets. All these deals will look friendly in 2024 if they play like they are capable of.  NFC south is down. I really think we have a shot at it then make a run in 2024. Most excited I’ve been in years as a Panthers fan. I haven’t hated a single move we have done yet. 

[Jackie Lee]

21 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

thinking we overpaid for Hurst expecting Schultz and Gesicki to go for more than they did.

Also afraid we did the same with Sanders, other RBs aren't really getting that great of deals right now.

 Hurst was the only guy in the top 5 that can catch and block well, he'll actually be useful on run downs and QB scrambles 

[Basbear]

19 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 Hurst was the only guy in the top 5 that can catch and block well, he'll actually be useful on run downs and QB scrambles 

Same for sanders, fewer weakness in each of their games. They are the types that dont come off the field. 

Schultz and his agent, got honey dicked. 

[Jackie Lee]

11 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Same for sanders, fewer weakness in each of their games. They are the types that dont come off the field. 

Schultz and his agent, got honey dicked. 

I just watched his "highlights". Dude seriously winces every time he's about to get tackled. Not interested in a tall glorified slot receiver, we just got Thielen to basically be that guy

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

I just watched his "highlights". Dude seriously winces every time he's about to get tackled. Not interested in a tall glorified slot receiver, we just got Thielen to basically be that guy

Not to mention that dallas system is uber TE friendly. League spoke loud and hard this FA period. I bet some agents are going to get fired over the dreams told to the players. Schultz should have taken that 3 yr 36 off, if he did Im not sure sanders would have signed here(i bet foreman for 3 would have happened).... For sure his first year hed gotten more than 9, plus LOLOLlol texans?!?!? good-luck improving your stats there, brother...... 

[MHS831]

About those saying we overpaid--this is one of the most frugal free agencies I can remember.

 

[TheCasillas]

18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

About those saying we overpaid--this is one of the most frugal free agencies I can remember.

 

which im truly wondering why... would it be economy related? Is the league trying to bring down prices of players? Pretty wild stuff.

[Jon Snow]

19 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

which im truly wondering why... would it be economy related? Is the league trying to bring down prices of players? Pretty wild stuff.

Look no further than what an average franchise qb contract cost today. Look at the contracts handed out to them the last few years and ask yourself how can you build a complete team with the money left.

You are seeing where this is going in the future.  If you hit on qb you only have a few years to sound him with talent before you have to dedicate a large portion of your salary cap to 1 player. 

The rookie has about 2 years by my estimate before the Panthers have another 1st round pick to replace his ass if they are in the same situation as this year. 

If they have not made the nfcc game by then I doubt Reich and Fitterer are around to take the next swing.

[CPcavedweller]

27 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

which im truly wondering why... would it be economy related? Is the league trying to bring down prices of players? Pretty wild stuff.

Players don't have to sign, ya know? They are signing.

[tukafan21]

25 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Look no further than what an average franchise qb contract cost today. Look at the contracts handed out to them the last few years and ask yourself how can you build a complete team with the money left.

You are seeing where this is going in the future.  If you hit on qb you only have a few years to sound him with talent before you have to dedicate a large portion of your salary cap to 1 player. 

The rookie has about 2 years by my estimate before the Panthers have another 1st round pick to replace his ass if they are in the same situation as this year. 

If they have not made the nfcc game by then I doubt Reich and Fitterer are around to take the next swing.

If we're still picking in the Top 10 in 2 more years, we could be looking to draft someone new again, but depending how the college game shakes out in that time, I think they play it out for one more year.

That next draft class could have Arch Manning, and let's be honest, if he pans out as expected, I'd LOVE to get a Manning at QB, hard to argue with that bloodline right now.

Also, I don't think we have to have made an NFCC game in the next 2 years, playoffs, sure, but not that much in 2 years, that would be an incredible turnaround.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

If we're still picking in the Top 10 in 2 more years, we could be looking to draft someone new again, but depending how the college game shakes out in that time, I think they play it out for one more year.

That next draft class could have Arch Manning, and let's be honest, if he pans out as expected, I'd LOVE to get a Manning at QB, hard to argue with that bloodline right now.

Also, I don't think we have to have made an NFCC game in the next 2 years, playoffs, sure, but not that much in 2 years, that would be an incredible turnaround.

If you listen to the interview between Adam Theilen and Pat McAfee they are thinking SB run. The bar is high on this crew and if they are not there by year 3 or at least very close I doubt Tepper will tolerate anything less. 

[tukafan21]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

If you listen to the interview between Adam Theilen and Pat McAfee they are thinking SB run. The bar is high on this crew and if they are not there by year 3 or at least very close I doubt Tepper will tolerate anything less. 

I can see a very real scenario that we win a weak division with a rookie QB going 9-8 and then follow that up with a 10 or 11 win season that even with a first round exit, I don't think they'd get fired over that.

After how bad we've been under Tepper, two playoffs with improvement in each year, they'd be solidified even with a down year after that I think.  Would need to bounce back after that for sure, but if we improve both of these first two years, especially with a young QB, then I think it buys then another 2 to see what they can do.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

I can see a very real scenario that we win a weak division with a rookie QB going 9-8 and then follow that up with a 10 or 11 win season that even with a first round exit, I don't think they'd get fired over that.

After how bad we've been under Tepper, two playoffs with improvement in each year, they'd be solidified even with a down year after that I think.  Would need to bounce back after that for sure, but if we improve both of these first two years, especially with a young QB, then I think it buys then another 2 to see what they can do.

I said by year 3. By the end of year 2 they better be nfcs Champs and win a couple of playoff games.  If they are not trending up by the end of year 2 with the new qb then things will get uncomfortable in BOA.

[Mr. Scot]