Tony Pauline: CJ Stroud or Anthony Richardson

[Mistuh Jones]

19 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

If they traded up for Anthony Richardson and pass over Stroud/Young I will unironically be done with this team for good

Effing FACTS BRO

[jayboogieman]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not at all...

If you like more than one player equally, you could move back, gain additional picks to make your roster even better and still get one of the guys you wanted.

I'd call that pretty smart.

If that was the case, then the smart play would have been moving up to 3 or 5 since that would have been cheaper and let the team keep their #1 WR.

[TLGPanthersFan]

2 minutes ago, kass said:

Red flag for me regarding coaches and GMs, "We can fix him" mentality... 

Yeah that would be a red flag. IMO, football mentality is hard if not borderline impossible to fix. 
You can fix mechanics but most of the time the QB’s mentality you get out of college is the mentality you are gonna have to live with while he is the QB here. 
 

[Matthias]

5 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

He is today. But in a month and a half, that may change.

Not at one.  If we stay there, its going to be Stroud.  If we trade down to 2, it will be either Stroud or Young depending on who's there.  The only way we draft Richardson is if we trade down further than the top two spots.  I don't see us doing that.  There is really nothing Richardson can say or do that would warrant us picking him over Stroud or Young.  These reports are nothing but our front office putting out smoke screens.  Keeping everybody on their toes.

[stan786]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

So some are saying it's Stroud or Young, Some are saying Stroud or AR, some are saying any of the 4.  The common variable is Stroud.  I'm thinking a team can trade up for our pick if they want to overpay and we would be OK with AR as plan B, but it was need to be a dumb trade.  Desperation may set in after FA who knows...  Stroud is plan A at 1.

This is my feeling. I think its pretty clearly Stroud but we clearly want some smoke around it.

[Jon Snow]

I didn't know there was so many qb experts on the huddle.  

[MHS831]

Just now, 45catfan said:

If we get the sense that the Texans want AR and the Colts want Levis, why would we not move back?

Should we think, "The Colts want Levis if picking at #4?"  I mean, is that perception based on the idea that Young/Stroud are gone by #4?  There are going to be some shocking picks during this year's draft.  To counter that point, did the Colts try to trade with the Bears (to me, that was the obvious trade up partner) but maybe they did not have the WR the Bears wanted?  I dunno.  What are the lies and who are the spies?

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, jayboogieman said:

If that was the case, then the smart play would have been moving up to 3 or 5 since that would have been cheaper and let the team keep their #1 WR.

Breer actually stated that one of the reasons we decided to go all the way up to #1 is that there wasn't a huge difference between what the Bears wanted and what the Cardinals wanted for their respective picks.

[jayboogieman]

6 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

I believe we moved up to have control - not necessarily for a particular guy.  I don't think we have figured that out yet, and still have lots of time to do so.  If Richardson ends up being our favorite after due diligence, then I hope we can trade back a little.  

 

6 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I agree it's highly unlikely, but if the Texans or Colts offer us something stupid-good in a compensation package, then anything is possible.

Tepper and Co have been trying to game the system and prove their smarter than the rest of the league since he bought the team. It hasn't worked out yet and I highly doubt trading up for "control" will too.

[Icege]

If they believe that AR-15 is the guy and can convince Houston or Indy to swap with them and regain some lost assets...

[DeSim]

Regardless of what happens, this is gonna be fun.  And whoever they pick, I'll be fully onboard and supporting the fook out of our new QB.

[Tarheel119]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Reports are that Tepper likes Levis 

There are also reports that Tepper loves Young. I think we’ll continuously hear this stuff for the next 40+days.

[jayboogieman]

8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

When people say that AR-15 has the most 'upside" I have to pause.  The only reason he is in the conversation is due to that upside, so it is baked into the conversation.  If he reaches his maximum upside, will he be better than Young or Stroud if they reach their maximum upsides?  And to reach his maximum upside, he will have to run the ball--hoping for a 10 year career.  So even in the best case scenarios, he is not a top 2 pick.

How many top NFL QBs were workout warriors at the combine?  Do not be enamored by the impressive bells and whistles if the basic ingredients common to all successful QBs are not first considered.

Richardson has a lot of potential. Then again, so do the other top 3 QBs. Well, maybe not Levis since he's older. A lot of people are so hung up on having Cam or Cam2.0, they're willing to latch onto any QB that has similar skills, size, and play style.

[Matthias]

Just now, Icege said:

If they believe that AR-15 is the guy and can convince Houston or Indy to swap with them and regain some lost assets...

That's what I'm thinking there.  I wouldn't trade the pick to the Colts though.  They would punk us and draft Stroud or Young.  The Texans on the other hand, if they give us their extra 1st round pick and they draft Richardson, that would be a FLEECE!!!!!!!!!!!