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What Veteran QB Do We Sign to Mentor the Rookie QB?

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11 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

There is nothing a "mentor" would offer that McCown wouldn't. This isn't Mike Shula.

Now a capable back up is a good idea.  But a young QB with McCown, Reich, and Caldwell doesn't need a mentor signing.

The relationship between a coach and a player is significantly different than the relationship between a player and another player, especially if that other player is closer to Stroud/Young's 21 than McCown's 43. There is something to be said for a QB having another experienced veteran QB on the team who he can lean on/ask questions and have be more of a good cop whereas a coach needs to hold the player accountable and be more of a bad cop.

That said, I don't think having a mentor at QB is a big deal. Having veteran leadership in general is a big deal but it doesn't have to come from the QB position, can be any position on the offense.

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2 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Can we just leave Cam alone at this point? Only deal I would sign is for 1 day to retire a Panther 

If people are fine with players like Joe Flacco, Nick Foles, and Teddy mf two gloves I see no reason why it’s crazy to suggest Cam. Cam is the best Mentor out of all of them and would command the most respect, he was a big influence on this new generation of QBS.

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1 hour ago, rmoneyg35 said:

We got mccown as a QB coach,  reich as our HC. We have vet QBs who are our coaches. We don’t need a vet Qb on the roster.

It never hurts to have more vet leadership, and a lot of teams with coach’s who were former QBS in the nfl still carry vet QBS due to this advantage. 

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34 minutes ago, shaq said:

If people are fine with players like Joe Flacco, Nick Foles, and Teddy mf two gloves I see no reason why it’s crazy to suggest Cam. Cam is the best Mentor out of all of them and would command the most respect, he was a big influence on this new generation of QBS.

I love Cam, I was even on board in bringing him back last year, he's my QB.

But he's not the right guy to be the backup to the #1 pick, at least not here.

That's WAY too big of a distraction for a rookie QB, you can't draft him and then sign our last #1 pick and an MVP to be his backup/mentor.  It just would create a level of awkwardness when your backup QB is more loved by the fan base than the #1 draft pick.  It's one thing to do it a couple years ago when Darnold was struggling and then got hurt, but you can't do it to a rookie #1 draft pick.

It would be like the Lions trading up to #1, drafting one of these QBs and then re-trading for Stafford.  It would just be too awkward of a situation to want to put your #1 draft pick and future of your franchise into.

Sure it could end up working out in the end, but it's definitely not setting him up for success from the start.

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9 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Jimmy G likely wouldn't be wanting to step into a situation where he might be overtaken as the starter by week 1 or at worst, know he's only a placeholder for 1 season at the very most.

Jimmy G is about to be 32 years old and has a long injury history.  No matter where he goes he's not the franchise savior.

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1 minute ago, Wes21 said:

Jimmy G is about to be 32 years old and has a long injury history.  No matter where he goes he's not the franchise savior.

Nobody said anything about him being a franchise savior.

But given his history and actual level of QB play, he's not signing with the team with the first overall pick, he's going somewhere that he'll be locked in as the Week 1 starter as soon as he signs.

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5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Nobody said anything about him being a franchise savior.

But given his history and actual level of QB play, he's not signing with the team with the first overall pick, he's going somewhere that he'll be locked in as the Week 1 starter as soon as he signs.

There isn't a single team in the NFL that he can sign with right now that can guarantee him the starting job.

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13 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

There isn't a single team in the NFL that he can sign with right now that can guarantee him the starting job.

The Raiders can and will

Short of them finding a way to trade up and get Stroud or Young, their Week 1 starting QB is going to be a Free Agent signing.  They're in a much more "win now" mode than any of the other teams looking for a QB not named the Jets (who also could give him that starting job if they don't land Rodgers).

Beyond them, the Commanders and Bucs can more or less give him that guarantee as well.

After that, signing with the Colts or Falcons would give him a significantly better chance at starting than over the #1 pick in the draft as well.

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