Confused Why Some Seem to Think We Got Fleeced

[Saca312]

On 3/11/2023 at 7:27 AM, Carl Spackler said:

Because Fitterer will choose the wrong player. 

Oh how right you are.

EDIT: My god you literally hit the nail on the head with each post you had in here. All your predictions pretty much turned out exactly as you expected.

From Kyler Jr. being bad to how any WR fitterer acquires being a dud, sheesh, that's incredible.

At that time I was in asheville high on hopium, but damn you really saw through it all.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Saca312

[Saca312]

On 3/11/2023 at 8:15 AM, Carl Spackler said:

I'm still not happy with it because of the player being given up, but that's the only way I can justify the deal in any way.

Forfeiting picks matters less when you choose the right player, but when you don't, you're ending up with egg on your face and even more embarrassment for a franchise that, bar December of last year, has collected it like pollen on a car for years. 

In short: yeah, I'd get it. Still wouldn't be crazy about it, but it beats the alternatives of having lousy QB play and overpaying for garbage WRs. That part's coming next regardless.

Some serious incredible foresight. Acknowledging Stroud would be the only good option and that all others would bum out. 

[Saca312]

On 3/11/2023 at 11:01 AM, Carl Spackler said:

Trading Moore and picking the wrong guy, then giving the wrong guy fry cooks as WRs, thereby making the 2024 first-round pick top 3 or better? Yeah, that's crippling, my guy.

 

[WhoKnows]

3 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Some serious incredible foresight. Acknowledging Stroud would be the only good option and that all others would bum out. 

SMH. I’m likely done in here for a while but Fitterer literally ended any chance of being competitive for a few years or even started us in a Browns/Lions decade+ run. I don’t care about Tepper being involved. It’s Fitterer many of us wanted sacked with Rhule because even with Rhule having the last say, Fitterer showed nothing good. All the people who said give him more rope should realize he destroyed this team. We have no coach, no GM, no QB, no Moore, no CMC, no TE, no LT, no interior OL, no extension or haul for Burns, no 2024 1st overall pick, no 2025 2nd and no depth/young talent from the past three drafts.

@Carl Spackler was dead on, as were a bunch of us who followed the drafts and hated our results. We 100% could have had this team chock full of talent if we didn’t do the trades that Fitterer did and we picked the guys that us huddlers liked way more than who Fitterer actually drafted.

To say that Fitterer has been an unmitigated disaster is the understatement of the decade.

[Carl Spackler]

Looks like I batted 1.000 in here

[LinvilleGorge]

On 3/11/2023 at 12:18 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly the price doesn't feel THAT extreme. I think both teams can feel pretty good about the deal they made. Now it's time to see how it all plays out. Sometimes the "winners" of a trade end up not winning when it's all said and done. The Chargers got an absolute haul from the Giants for Manning and hit some home runs with those picks but when it was all said and done the Giants won two SBs and the Chargers rarely kade any noise in the postseason.  Gimme them rangs.

Well, it's playing out. The game isn't over but right now it's looking like that Alabama/TCU national championship game and we ain't wearing crimson red.

[KSpan]

El .Oh. El.

And the amount of heat that we took, not necessarily in just this thread but overall, for even daring to suggest that this plan and staff may not be a world-beating one (among other things)... ooh boy. 

I will say though that this thread was pre-draft and had the team taken Stroud I don't think the future would be looking as dim. Alas, that's not how it played out.

Edited December 11, 2023 by KSpan

[Waldo]

There were so many confused people that supported all of those bad decisions. The coaching staff, the trade and the pick. None were good but at the time it was like the team had won the offseason. No one wanted to hear it then and wow is it bad now.

How the fug do you make that trade and not the Burns trade? Insanity

[45catfan]

I stayed far AWAY from this thread as possible.  I didn't like the trade up from the rip and then didn't like who we took with the pick.  I knew, in true Huddle form, If I had voiced my opinion about this whole thing it would be looong battle uphill.  Therefore, I just dodged it entirely.  Credit to Carl S. for speaking up and taking the time to take the heat.  I try to avoid multi-page pissing match threads.

[BrianS]

The problem is not what we gave up to get there.  The problem is who we chose with that selection.  Had we chosen Stroud, do you think this would even be a conversation?

[Htarnation4.0]

50 minutes ago, BrianS said:

The problem is not what we gave up to get there.  The problem is who we chose with that selection.  Had we chosen Stroud, do you think this would even be a conversation?

Yeah, this is the real issue even if we fixed the OL, WR, TE. We still don't have a franchise QB. What makes all that worse is that by the time we fix all that, if we even do, the D will need a rebuild. 

[ickmule]

Because some of us knew before the draft that the only reason 9 was any good was he was playing for the most loaded team in college against inferior talent 75% of the season.  

[electro's horse]

oof

[WhoKnows]

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

The problem is not what we gave up to get there.  The problem is who we chose with that selection.  Had we chosen Stroud, do you think this would even be a conversation?

Probably. Not as much but Stroud wouldn’t fix the WRs or the OL or Sanders. We at least would have seen some nice throws to feel optimistic but there would still be people complaining that we gave up too much. Unfortunately, we are just so damn bad with so many holes and so far away from contending that this place is what it is now because we will be mired in losses for at least a couple years.