Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Confused Why Some Seem to Think We Got Fleeced

Daddy_Uncle

By Daddy_Uncle,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Varking Grand Master

Varking

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Same here. I thought for sure it would cost next years first and 2025's  first

Bears get a young WR1 under contract for three more years who has proven himself in the NFL was more important to Chicago than a 2025 first. It sets their WR room up from a question mark to an asset. And out of the other options to trade for out there, DJ was significantly better or significantly younger than the other options. A 2025 first doesn’t help Justin Fields out next season. They need the help now. For a team that feels they have their guy at QB, they just dropped 8 spots in the draft and picked up a known WR1, will still get an elite player at 9, and picked up a few more staters along the way. It’s a fair deal for everyone. 
 

Now WE are the team that desperately needs a WR to sign here. But I’m not sure how many are going to want to sign to play with a rookie. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
NAS Grand Master

NAS

Posted
Posted (edited)

Because they listen to the pundits who are biased toward big market teams like Chicago.  This is a good trade for Chicago too IF Justin Fields develops into a true franchise QB and a competent passer  (jury's still out).  It'll also be interesting to see if  DJ Moore can prove to be the WR1 that Fields needs to do that.  

For the Panthers, it's absolutely a great trade assuming that CJ Stroud or B. Young is our franchise QB for the next 10-15 years.  Simple as that and totally worth it.

I honestly thought we would have to give up two additional firsts and trading DJ instead is better because I'm not sure he has that value with his contract. 

 

Edited by NAS
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
MHS831 Grand Master

MHS831

Posted
Posted

Moore was a good, solid WR.  He did not instill fear in defenses--someone said it best, "He is a #2."  His contract was team friendly as a #1.

In an article from Green Bay after Rhule was fired, the writer suggested/estimated that a trade for Moore would cost: " If there is a deal to be done, it could be a for 2023 2nd-round pick and a 2024 4th-rounder."

https://wisportsheroics.com/is-a-dj-moore-trade-feasible-for-the-packers/

So yes, instead of a 2025 first round selection, they basically got the 2023 equivalent of a second and fourth.  This was worth it for the Bears because Fields needs veteran WR help now, and it was worth it for the Panthers, who probably did not want to go more than 1 year without a first round selection.

 

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Harbingers Grand Master

Harbingers

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Varking said:

 

 

That’s not as bad than. I was under the impression we gave up ‘24 and ‘25.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Even though we gave up a prime tangible asset to do it. Fitts finally being aggressive(or more likely not being held back). Now we hold the keys and can milk Houston. If that other rumor is true. 

It is a risk. Only time will tell. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Lame Duck Grand Master

Lame Duck

Posted
Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I was actually shocked how low the price was.

Yep!  Same!

We did not mortgage away our entire draft.  We are only missing first rounder next year.  Also, we are building for next year when we will have over $100M in cap space and QB on rookie deal.

Just remember, we gave up first for Everette Brown once. 

Edited by Lame Duck
  • Beer 1
  • Flames 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
heel31ok Experienced

heel31ok

Posted
Posted
36 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

1 first
2 seconds
DJ Moore


That's not a lot to give up for the #1 pick. WRs are easier to get than QBs. We have messed around with the QB situation for years and it hasn't worked. Now we have OUR choice. Not whoever is left over. We control this draft. 

I would have expected to give up more to get to #1 from #9. 

The qb pool is a low value...still overpaid for the move. 

  • Pie 1
  • Poo 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
*FreeFua* Grand Master

*FreeFua*

Posted
Posted

I thought it was a very fair trade for both teams. So considering how many QB needy teams we needed to jump I thought we did very well 

I think Moore is going to go off in Chicago. He is a much better deep threat than people realize due to our QB situation over the years. Moore and Fields will make for an exciting duo

At the end of the day, nothing matters in this league unless you have your QB. So this was a trade we had to make

  • Pie 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Stumpy
      Canes vs redwings 7pm

      By Stumpy · Posted

      Sounds like #37 gonna miss the whole road trip.  
    • PNW_PantherMan
      Canes vs redwings 7pm

      By PNW_PantherMan · Posted

      I didn't realize Robidas is Stankoven sized lol
    • Icege
      Verge, why do you like Mykel Williams?

      By Icege · Posted

      No, but considering that over a third (~35%) of their schedule are the other three teams in the NFC South and all three have strong starting (and back-up) RBs that the offense leans heavily on to open up the pass game. ATL: Bijan has this season and next season before the Falcons have to make a decision on his fifth-year option, Tyler Allgeier is a proven back-up RB that could start for some teams, and 2024 sixth-round selection Jase McClellan returns from a knee injury that sidelined him for the remainder of the season starting in early September. Combine that with their QB situation, and that's a team that is going to lean heavily on the run just like they did last season when they were 8th in the league in rushing attempts, 10th in rushing yards, 8th in rushing TDs, 9th in rushing attempts on 1st down, . NO: Similar situation as ATL, but for different reasons. Derek Carr is in the second to last year of his deal and the QBs behind him are Spencer Rattler, Jake Haener, and Ben DiNucci. However, they also have Alvin Kamara. One thing that we know about Kellen Moore from his stints as an OC is that he likes to lean heavily on a versatile RB1 while bringing in an arguably equally versatile RB2 to keep their foot on opposing defenses. When Moore had Zeke in Dallas, Zeke was 4th in the league in touches during those four years but Pollard still averaged 10 touches and nearly 60yds a game. Look for the Saints to shore up their RB room in the draft with Kendre Miller, CEH, Jordan Mims, and Xazavian Valladay all competing for touches behind Kamara. TB: Bucky Irving exploded onto the scene last season, but we can't forget more than capable (now-)RB2 Rachaad White. White is on the last year of his rookie deal, but Irving is under contract until 2028. Last season, the Bucs were 10th in rushing attempts, 4th in rushing yards, 3rd in YPC, 7th in carries of 20+, 8th in carries of 40+, and 7th in first down rushing attempts and that helped Baker Mayfield be one of the most efficient passers in the league with a 71.4% completion percentage (good enough for 2nd in the league).
×
×
  • Create New...