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JOE PERSON: Panthers will not pursue Lamar Jackson


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Memo to the league and union, NFL is totally different from the NBA. More players, large sizes, and LOTS more injuries. 

It's a different contract world. 

Just cause Dumbass Tepper signed some rookie HC to a 7 year 62 million deal, doesnt mean it's the floor for ALL new HCs entering the NFL/HC. Browns went allllll-in on some watson bluff and with the help of agents, got him some insane 250 million guaranteed deal. That doest mean it's the floor for elite QBs, just like the Rhule contract. Browns&Tepper fuged up, doesnt mean the other teams need to follow.

 

 

 

 

Looking back and knowing the type of player baker is.......i do see why browns pushed alll-in....not to say its right, but i understand...

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Teams don't want to give huge guaranteed money to a guy with injury concerns.

Jackson overplayed his hand, besides likely making a huge mistake by not hiring an agent.

Teams don't want to give huge guaranteed money to anyone.

BTW, the "hand" is not over.

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Just now, TheBigKat said:

This is concerning for collusion

Not really. Just because the Browns made a bad deal doesn't mean the rest of the NFL has to do it. The price for Lamar is 2 1sts and a likely fully guaranteed salary. It's very possible that teams don't want to pay that price or go through the entire negotiation process just to have the Ravens match it and be done. It really could be that simple. 

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I dunno if it’s so much collusion as it is smart. It would be foolish to give a 250mil fully guaranteed contract to an injury prone QB, especially with having to give up two firsts to make that mistake. If he was a FA I’d absolutely be down for negotiating and trying to sign him. No to big money + two firsts though.  And that’s probably what most teams are thinking.

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Teams don't want to give huge guaranteed money to a guy with injury concerns.

Jackson overplayed his hand, besides likely making a huge mistake by not hiring an agent.

 

5 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Is it?  A decade ago for sure it would be, before the twitter verse.  

Today, every team without a QB or in need of an upgrade has likely been asked by dozens of sports reporters (in a matter of moments) if they intend to pursue Lamar.  Is it surprising that they are cool to the idea, knowing what we know when it comes to salary, picks and injury concerns?

Chances are Jackson is going to ultimately sign with the Ravens after further discussions.  That's the best course of action for both parties

FWIW Scot and Nanuq still believe that Lee Harvey Oswald owned magic bullets and that Jimmy Hoffa just really wanted some peace and quiet...

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No owner is going to want to pay full guarantees to an injury prone quarterback. That's like an owner of a company saying you can have unlimited paid sick days. It would just be insane, which is why the Browns are the Browns.

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1 hour ago, Sub Zero said:

The Bat signal has been sent up!!

This is a coordinated market correction being implemented infront of all of us..

Lamar is about to be made a example…

But all it takes is 1 Hasslem to go against his boys and be willing to take the cold shoulder that will come from stepping out of line…

Lets see what happens…

Or one Davis...

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1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I dunno if it’s so much collusion as it is smart. It would be foolish to give a 250mil fully guaranteed contract to an injury prone QB, especially with having to give up two firsts to make that mistake. If he was a FA I’d absolutely be down for negotiating and trying to sign him. No to big money + two firsts though.  And that’s probably what most teams are thinking.

exactly 

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16 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Chicago has the cap space.  They should negotiate a trade of Fields for Lamar.  It would instantly make the Bears more competitive and the Ravens would have another young QB to develop.  Something they seem to be good at doing. 

That'd be interesting.

Probably not likely but it'd be interesting to watch.

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He doesn’t deserve a fully guaranteed contract.  That being said, we are stupid if we aren’t calling and offering 45M per year with at least half the total contract guaranteed.  Sure, the Ravens would likely match the offer.  But you gotta friggin try.  Jackson makes this a team that can compete for a SB next season 

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