Breaking: Lamar Jackson is available as Raven's have placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on him.

[rebelrouser]

6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Offer him the Kyler Murray contract.

I agree but Baltimore would just match it and tell Lamar see? No one giving you guaranteed money.  Also, even though the media hasn't screamed race, they are screaming collusion, which is their way of implying a bunch of white owners conspiring against a black player. The undertones of these articles are certainly filled with race. I think only two owners are dumb enough to offer a fully guaranteed contract and one already did that with the massage enthusiast and the other is trying to sell the Commandos.  

[The Lobo]

5 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

I agree but Baltimore would just match it and tell Lamar see? No one giving you guaranteed money.  Also, even though the media hasn't screamed race, they are screaming collusion, which is their way of implying a bunch of white owners conspiring against a black player. The undertones of these articles are certainly filled with race. I think only two owners are dumb enough to offer a fully guaranteed contract and one already did that with the massage enthusiast and the other is trying to sell the Commandos.  

How much is kylers guaranteed, my understanding is Baltimore offered 133 and wouldn’t budge, if kylers is more, that could do it. 

[rebelrouser]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Then let them match it.lol

 

It's not hard. Just offer him a contract at least show the fans we are trying to find a winning QB.

 

How the hell do you go after the weirdo Watson but not even go after Lamar. It makes no sense.

I agree.  And if Baltimore shocks us and says give us two 1's, all the better. 

[mrcompletely11]

18 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Who's saying anything about race?

 

I have been watching the different media shows this morning and I haven't seen anyone bring up race. They all saying it is about collusion from the owners.

https://www.outkick.com/lamar-jackson-victim-racialized-media-baltimore-ravens-contract-nfl/

[frankw]

I can't disagree with our decision not to try and go for Lamar but I will say it's cringe af people don't want him yet will still talk up someone like Darnold. The ol' baby goat mentality is still at it.

[KBRed]

Not reading thru the entire thread, but Sheena Quick is stating the Panthers are having talks about Lamar. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

The bottom line is if one team thought acquiring Lamar for that price would make them a winner, they would do it.  They would not care about resetting the market or pissing off the rest of the owners.  Case in point last year with the Browns.

[therealmjl]

54 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

They have been killing us and Atlanta this morning about not offering Lamar a contract. Basically called us losers because we aren't trying to sign a QB who wins.

 

Even if you don't like Lamar, why are we not even offering a contract?

 

We don't have to offer him the Watson contract. Offer him the Kyler Murray contract. I just don't understand how Tepper went all out for Watson but he's not even interested in Lamar who has a better resume.

No one worth their salt at any front office position for any professional sports team cares what “they” say.

[SmokinwithWilly]

6 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

No one worth their salt at any front office position for any professional sports team cares what “they” say.

"They" have to create drama or "they" don't have an audience and are out on "their" ass. 

[Tbe]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I do because they seem to be right.

 

We have gone downhill since we last actually had a franchise QB.

 

If Tepper likes losing then keep signing the Darnold's/Mayfield's/Bridgewater's of the league and see how that works out for us.

 

I know im annoying some people because im defending Lamar "the player". You can question his contract cool. But you can't question his talent as a QB. He's a true franchise QB that can't be debated.

Lamar has missed 10 regular season games in the past two seasons at the most critical time.

His playing style means he most likely won’t have a long career.

He would be worth looking at if his contract was reasonable AND we didn’t have to give up 2 1st rounders to get him.

The draft picks are a killer.

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I do because they seem to be right.

 

We have gone downhill since we last actually had a franchise QB.

 

If Tepper likes losing then keep signing the Darnold's/Mayfield's/Bridgewater's of the league and see how that works out for us.

 

I know im annoying some people because im defending Lamar "the player". You can question his contract cool. But you can't question his talent as a QB. He's a true franchise QB that can't be debated.

Actually it can be debated. His injuries are a legitimate concern. How does he fit into your offense can be questioned. His talent as a QB absolutely need to be questioned. How signing him allows you to build a team around him can be questioned. All of these and much more factor into whether or not he can be OUR franchise QB. 

Contrary to what you keep repeating. LJ did not win 75% of his games. His team won 75% of the games in which he played. How much he was directly responsible for those wins or losses is a completely different statistical analysis. 

Remember, Payton Manning had one of the worst games by a QB in SB history and still won (with some ref help). Denver's defense dominated and he got the win. It's a total team that wins, not just the one with the flashiest superstar. 

[Mr. Scot]

Front offices don't give a sh-t what "they" think...

...nor should they.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Some people said he could have played at the end of the season but he sat out to protect his bag. I can see that being true.

 

If true that 10 games is more like 6 games. Is 6 games enough for us to call a guy injury prone?

 

 

That just makes it worse. 

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Some people said he could have played at the end of the season but he sat out to protect his bag. I can see that being true.

 

If true that 10 games is more like 6 games. Is 6 games enough for us to call a guy injury prone?

 

 

If he sat to protect his bag as you put then I can see why teams are not interested.