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Per Rich Eisen: “The Bears are long down the road to trading the first overall pick. The teams have been identified, compensation is being hammered out.”

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5 minutes ago, tecc86 said:

 

Yeah I mean why would we want a career 67% passer, a little over 4k yards a season, 2.5:1 TD:Int ratio and almost 100 QB Rating

 

Is he Pat Mahomes? No, he's pretty fuging good though and the fact that you think ending up like Dak is a DOWNSIDE is hilarious.

Trading THREE FIRSTS FOR DAK is hilarious. He played in the big10 with constant WR1s. Why do we ignore this? Did Bryce play with Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jaxson Smith Njigba, Marvin Harrison Jr, Emeka Egbuka… who are all first round WR! Does levis? Does ar? We are not surrounding Stroud with this talent gap and how do we know Stroud makes something out of nothing? Yeah, fine, cherry pick numbers but ignore all other circumstances. 
 

Fields had a 68.5 rating, paced for 3600 passing yards, had a 67-9 td/int ratio in college and yet we passed on that for a CB! (Which I’m happy we did because horn is a dogs dog). Yet Fields gets into the nfl and there is no improvement and the team is picking first , two years later. Why? Because the cast you put around these qb matter! Unfortunately this team doesn’t have the talent around him to emulate what happened at OSU. We don’t have Garrett Wilson, Olave, MHJR, JSN, or anything of that nature. We have solid and sturdy Dj Moore and trending to bust TMJR ( who I feel can turn it around). 
 

By not having these firsts, how are we helping out Stroud? “2024 cap space” which is FOURTEENTH best in the NFL? Where is our Chase? Where is our Hill and Kelce? Where is our Stefon Diggs? I do not doubt that Stroud will be a SOLID NFL QB. But I sincerely do not see franchise potential and we will not be able to surround him with premier talent. 

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11 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

If it’s not us it will just start the trading for pick 3 saga.

That's already started. Pretty sure there is a thread on here about moving to 3.

With Carr gone, I'm 100% sure we're moving up. Idk if it will be 1 or 3. If we can't secure one of those, might as well stay put, or make a move on draft day based on how the board falls.

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1 hour ago, PantherKyle said:

To keep our '24 and '25 firsts? To draft a player like.....Burns? 

Shoot higher. Rams are looking to trade some solid players, so I’d keep their picks and trade ours.

Also, here’s the haul:

Rams 2023 2nd (pick 36)

Rams 2024 1st

Rams 2025 1st

Multiple FAs using Burns’ cap space $25-30M a year.

Don’t care about replacing Burns, there are guys like Ngakoue, Reddick, Judon and this is the deepest edge rusher class in years. I only would have cared about the overall value we could have gotten like getting our franchise QB and still have multiple 2nds and 2024/2025 1sts to put weapons around the rookie QB say like a top TE in a deep class this year and maybe a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr next year.

Now we’ll have Burns, a rookie QB and the same weapons we have now.

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50 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Who are the teams that are shooting for pick #1?. Atlanta will supposedly be in the mix along with Panthers and likely Colts. This will be a shootout for number one spot.

Exactly, and the Raiders are in the mix if they do not sign Jimmy G.

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24 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

Trading THREE FIRSTS FOR DAK is hilarious. He played in the big10 with constant WR1s. Why do we ignore this? Did Bryce play with Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jaxson Smith Njigba, Marvin Harrison Jr, Emeka Egbuka… who are all first round WR! Does levis? Does ar? We are not surrounding Stroud with this talent gap and how do we know Stroud makes something out of nothing? Yeah, fine, cherry pick numbers but ignore all other circumstances. 
 

Fields had a 68.5 rating, paced for 3600 passing yards, had a 67-9 td/int ratio in college and yet we passed on that for a CB! (Which I’m happy we did because horn is a dogs dog). Yet Fields gets into the nfl and there is no improvement and the team is picking first , two years later. Why? Because the cast you put around these qb matter! Unfortunately this team doesn’t have the talent around him to emulate what happened at OSU. We don’t have Garrett Wilson, Olave, MHJR, JSN, or anything of that nature. We have solid and sturdy Dj Moore and trending to bust TMJR ( who I feel can turn it around). 
 

By not having these firsts, how are we helping out Stroud? “2024 cap space” which is FOURTEENTH best in the NFL? Where is our Chase? Where is our Hill and Kelce? Where is our Stefon Diggs? I do not doubt that Stroud will be a SOLID NFL QB. But I sincerely do not see franchise potential and we will not be able to surround him with premier talent. 


This is my primary concern as well.

Drafting a good QB is just step 1. Surrounding him with talent is how you develop him and win with him. 

We can’t do that if we don’t have a 1st round pick until after his 3rd year. We have too many holes in our roster.

Remember, QB + HC combos win a SB in their first 5 years together or they never do.

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1 minute ago, Tbe said:


This is my primary concern as well.

Drafting a good QB is just step 1. Surrounding him with talent is how you develop him and win with him. 

We can’t do that if we don’t have a 1st round pick until after his 3rd year. We have too many holes in our roster.

Remember, QB + HC combos win a SB in their first 5 years together or they never do.

It's a problem. Young being too small, he'll need an amazing offensive line to keep him clean. Then we have Stroud, who has size, but overall doesn't look great under pressure, with the exception of the Peach Bowl.

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2 hours ago, Brent Gregory said:

In a very bad qb  year this is the nightmare unfolding before our eyes. The most polished qb is a little person and the most gifted athlete can't hit a broad side of a barn. The other 2 aren't remotely worth giving up future needed picks. Letting Carr get away left Carolina in a horrible situation.  Now they're gonna franchise the future for a qb who most likely will go down the road of Darnold, Fields, Mayfield etc....

Frank is that you?

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