Bears spoke to 3 teams at the combine about the first overall pick: know they can get 1sts in 2024 and 2025

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

You may be right but AR may be QB #3 now.  Who knows maybe both Levis and AR are there at 9.  I just am not a AR fan in the top 10.  I don’t think a player could do much more to raise their stock but I am not drafting a player that starts 13 games and throws at a 50% clip.  That sounds like major bust to me.

It would be a bit of a reach to take him indeed. Depending on what so called expert you choose to believe will determine how much of one it is. His abilities does not come as a surprise to evaluators. Guys like Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks evaluated the qb's a little differently but Bucky I think it was didn't have him in his top 5 qb's.  I do not remember whether DJ did or not. Bucky rated Hooker higher the Levis. 

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Now show me any other QB in history…you don’t get Josh Allen.  Josh Allen led the league in turnovers last season.  Fact

Jake Delhomme = 52.6% in the defunct Big West. 64 TDs vs. 57 INTs

[Shocker]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It would be a bit of a reach to take him indeed. Depending on what so called expert you choose to believe will determine how much of one it is. His abilities does not come as a surprise to evaluators. Guys like Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks evaluated the qb's a little differently but Bucky I think it was didn't have him in his top 5 qb's.  I do not remember whether DJ did or not. Bucky rated Hooker higher the Levis. 

People are ignoring Hooker but his stats were ridiculous the last 2 seasons.  That he turns into another success story is not impossible 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Shocker

[SaltAndPepper]

Just now, Shocker said:

People are ignoring Hooker but his stats were ridiculous the last 2 seasons.  If he turns into another success story is not impossible 

I really wouldn't just the Air Raid offense. Good kid but also 26 is just a huge turn off for me. (in quarterbacks, not women.)

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

People are ignoring Hooker but his stats were ridiculous the last 2 seasons.  That he turns into another success story is not impossible 

Not impossible but I struggle to see it because I remember how pedestrian he looked at VT when he wasn't playing in that Tennessee offense. Did he pull a Hurts and improve tremendously in a different setting? Maybe. But I honestly doubt it. IMO he's a 3rd round talent.

 

 

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, SaltAndPepper said:

I really wouldn't just the Air Raid offense. Good kid but also 26 is just a huge turn off for me. (in quarterbacks, not women.)

This is true but the Seahawks just resigned Geno Smith to a big deal at age 32 because he was really good last season.  26 isn’t old if the guy can play

Edited March 7, 2023 by Shocker

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

People are ignoring Hooker but his stats were ridiculous the last 2 seasons.  If he turns into another success story is not impossible 

I wouldn't count him out just yet. Fitterer has mentioned his name on more than one occasion. They've met with him once already and I think they plan to be at TN's pro day where I'm sure they will meet with him again.  I've made a mental note of it.

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not impossible but I struggle to see it because I remember how pedestrian he looked at VT when he wasn't playing in that Tennessee offense. Did he pull a Hurts and improve tremendously in a different setting? Maybe. But I honestly doubt it. IMO he's a 3rd round talent.

 

 

He is normally a third round talent…I agree.  Everyone needs to realize that this is a weak draft overall.  Hooker is a sleeper.  He was remarkably efficient the last 2 seasons

[45catfan]

11 minutes ago, Shocker said:

People are ignoring Hooker but his stats were ridiculous the last 2 seasons.  That he turns into another success story is not impossible 

Yup and we still can draft a QB next season too. People are so damn desperate for a QB now that three 1st rounders, hell the next decade of 1st rounders, could be on the table.

Musf Hov Muh Rouky Qartarbock!!!!

[Shocker]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Yup and we still can draft a QB next season too. People are so damn desperate for a QB now that three 1st rounders, hell the next decade of 1st rounders, could be on the table.

Musf Hov Muh Rouky Qartarbock!!!!

58 TDs passing vs 5 int in the SEC over 2 years is killing it

[Varking]

Lamar Jackson in college: 57% completions. Pros? 63.7%

Drew Brees in college: 61.1% completions. Pros? 67.7%. 
 

Dudes having better completion percentages in the NFL compared to college is actually fairly common now. That perception of it being the opposite stopped being accurate like ten years ago. People can stop using Josh Allen as the only example now. Sometimes you have poo teammates in college. And their WR in the NFL make a lot of those catches that get dropped in college. 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Varking

[Varking]

Just now, Shocker said:

58 TDs passing vs 5 int in the SEC over 2 years is killing it

As an old man. Playing at 24 and 25 years old in college is a huge advantage. The knock on him this year was he was a one read QB. 

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

58 TDs passing vs 5 int in the SEC over 2 years is killing it

Imagine we get to keep all our picks too? That's insane!

[Shocker]

5 minutes ago, Varking said:

Lamar Jackson in college: 57% completions. Pros? 63.7%

Drew Brees in college: 61.1% completions. Pros? 67.7%. 
 

Dudes having better completion percentages in the NFL compared to college is actually fairly common now. That perception of it being the opposite stopped being accurate like ten years ago. People can stop using Josh Allen as the only example now. Sometimes you have poo teammates in college. And their WR in the NFL make a lot of those catches that get dropped in college. 

Man, you are going down with the AR ship.  I commend you for fronting for your boy but the excuses you are making for him are crazy.  Peace brother.

Compare Hooker with AR the last 2 seasons,  tell me who is the more talented QB.  Please explain 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Shocker