REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Sub Zero]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

Carr isn’t a dummy.. Other then playing in the AFC or the AFCE being a problem.. The Jets give him the best chance at success and situation best fits him now as a QB..

[TheSpecialJuan]

 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Carr isn’t a dummy.. Other then playing in the AFC or the AFCE being a problem.. The Jets give him the best chance at success and situation best fits him now as a QB..

From the article...

I hear that … the Jets are willing to wait out Rodgers. Nobody really knows what Rodgers is thinking about his future even after he spoke about it on a podcast this week, his first public comments since going on a four-day darkness retreat. He didn’t sound like someone who planned to retire, pushing back on the idea that his skills are declining.

So the next question becomes: What team does he want to play for? The Raiders appear to have removed themselves from the running, while the Titans have said they plan to bring back Ryan Tannehill. It’s shaping up as Packers, Jets or bust for Rodgers, unless a mystery team plans to enter the fray.

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Around the league, there is an expectation that if Rodgers doesn’t retire, he’ll likely return to the Packers — and that they’d welcome him back with open arms. But Rodgers hasn’t recently been communicating with Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst, so that’s mostly guesswork. The Jets hired one of Rodgers’ closest friends (Nathaniel Hackett) as offensive coordinator, but I’ve heard that hasn’t helped provide any insight on his decision yet.

Despite all of that, the Jets are willing to wait for Rodgers to make a decision because they believe the quarterback, even at 39, gives them the best chance to not only make the playoffs, but compete for the Super Bowl. Yes, it would cost a lot, both in terms of financial and trade compensation, but the Jets view getting a quarterback of Rodgers’ caliber as worth all of that — even if it also means adding the drama that follows him around.

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I hear that … If Rodgers does wind up back in Green Bay, the Jets should be viewed as the favorite to land Carr. His meeting in New Jersey recently with Saleh and others went well and the Jets view Carr as a quarterback who can get them over the hump and contend in the AFC.

But that doesn’t mean it’s a perfect fit.

Carr must be able to handle the scrutiny and criticism that comes with being the Jets quarterback. An NFC scout also cited concerns about how Carr handles pass-rushing pressure in games, noting that he started to become contact-averse after he suffered a fibula fracture at the end of the 2016 season and as he struggled with a rib injury in 2022.

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If the Jets do go full steam ahead in their pursuit of Carr — they haven’t offered him a contract yet — how much will it cost? The expectation is that his next contract could average in the $35 million to $40 million range, though the structure of the deal (in terms of guaranteed money and cap hits) is what really matters.

[Jackie Lee]

13 minutes ago, Sub Zero said:

Carr isn’t a dummy.. Other then playing in the AFC or the AFCE being a problem.. The Jets give him the best chance at success and situation best fits him now as a QB..

I would guess at 32 he's looking for the best guaranteed deal for his last big contract

[mrcompletely11]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I will try and find her being busted but she was exposed as lying and just making poo up in general.  I believe it was around the horn draft

wait, I got a warning for this post?  what the hell?

[Kentucky Panther]

People need to chill and let our staff do its thing. If they think giving up three picks is worth it for one of these QBs, we have zero reason to doubt them at this point. All off season we’ve talked about the all star coaching staff we’ve assembled.  Let’s give them a chance to do something before doom and gloom kicks in. 
 

Not a single one of us won’t be excited if we trot a first round rookie out there to start the opening game. Would be beyond refreshing. 

[Cdparr7]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Then why haven't teams offered him a deal yet?

 

He's waiting for teams to decide on their QB moving forward. If he was our plan A he would have a contract offer by now.

How do you know he don’t and he’s negotiating back and forth?

[45catfan]

2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Most high round rookie QBs get 3 years if not more to prove themselves though right?  Unless they completely struggle like Zach Wilson who still might be playing into his third year unless they find someone else...

Opportunity costs.  It's a real thing.  Zach Wilson is one of many, many, many examples.  Yes, it takes about 3 years to find out if the QB is a bust or not, in the mean time we are given up 1st round talent that's not a QB with the trade collateral.  Franchise-type talent isn't only found in QBs and the type of talent we forfeit trading away with the next 3 years worth of first rounders.

[Cdparr7]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kleiman writes for BroBible. He's not a legit source but the people he quotes usually are. He got fooled by the phony rumor that we were calling about Aaron Rodgers though.

THe guy who talked about the Packers being disgusted with Rodgers is longtime beat writer Bob McGinn. He's as legit as they come.

Ah okay. I got my stories mixed up.

[45catfan]

2 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

 

I haven't read the next five pages yet, but your second comment applies to your first. There is no guarantee that any draft pick will be a starter, much less a cornerstone piece regardless of position.

True and why giving up 3 chances at a home run in favor of 1 doesn't sit well with me.

[Hoenheim]

3 hours ago, Xtreme said:

I remembered when I got shitted on when I said it was stupid to try and make a playoff push. We needed to tank, but NOOO, we just had to win some shitty games against other shitty teams. How did that work out for us?

The thing is it's neigh impossible to make players tank because they're mostly playing for their jobs and how much money they can make In the future. 

An organization can tank by trading away good players I guess. But that doesn't ever guarantee wins and losses.

Even if you as a fan want the team to tank it doesn't really affect whether they win or lose. But I agree that fans shouldn't be vilified for wanting a high enough pick for a franchise QB because that's the fastest route to correcting our consistent losing seasons for the last 5 years. 

[ForJimmy]

24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Opportunity costs.  It's a real thing.  Zach Wilson is one of many, many, many examples.  Yes, it takes about 3 years to find out if the QB is a bust or not, in the mean time we are given up 1st round talent that's not a QB with the trade collateral.  Franchise-type talent isn't only found in QBs and the type of talent we forfeit trading away with the next 3 years worth of first rounders.

Yeah it’s a big loss, but it’s also an opportunity to add a staff-viewed top talented QB. Something (in theory) we won’t be in a position to do for a long time assuming our staff does it’s thing. That’s unfortunately the opportunity cost.

[Jon Snow]

Aggressive would be to trade for the 1st overall pick and taking Richardson after you've signed Carr to a 3 year deal.  If you are going to swing, swing for the fences.