REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Funnily enough if he had traded Burns for that absurd offer he'd have much more ammunition to go up and get the QB Reich et al wants...

Realistically he should have been fired on the spot for turning down that trade.

I agree

It’s never a good thing when the GM and HC have different timelines in terms of job security. Something that will continue to potentially blow up in our faces 

Scott talked a lot about future cap space in his presser. I said it at the time it happened but I’ll say it again, this offseason will either make or break us for the foreseeable future 

[ECHornet]

8 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

If we go after a player let it be Jalen Carter if first pick isn't a QB.

I hope not. 
 

If we aren’t sold on moving up for a QB, a trade back with a team needing a starter at OT should be the move. Let someone give us a 2024 1st and 2023 2nd or 3rd to move up for Skoronski or Jones. 

Edited March 7, 2023 by ECHornet

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You will have to place half this board on suicide watch and triple the security around BOA. There would be an epic meltdown for the ages. 

Herbert was right there.....

[CamWhoaaCam]

8 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You will have to place half this board on suicide watch and triple the security around BOA. There would be an epic meltdown for the ages. 

Not really because that would mean we traded for Rodgers or Lamar.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by CamWhoaaCam

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Not really because that would mean we traded for Rodgers or Lamar.

 

An overpaid drama queen that could retire after a single season and a QB that has missed 25% of the past two seasons that wants to have one of the highest guaranteed contracts in the NFL. Hard pass for both. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

An overpaid drama queen that could retire after a single season and a QB that has missed 25% of the past two seasons that wants to have one of the highest guaranteed contracts in the NFL. Hard pass for both. 

Nobody wants a franchise QB anymore...

 

They rather sign Derek Carr and just be happy being middle of the pack.

 

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Nobody wants a franchise QB anymore...

 

They rather sign Derek Carr and just be happy being middle of the pack.

 

 

GB wants a franchise QB but is happy to let Rogers walk. Baltimore wants a franchise QB, but will trade LJ. 

It's not all about having a franchise QB. You have to have a team. These teams are willing to let them walk because they believe they can build a better team by doing so. That should give anyone pause to stop and ask why. 

Rogers needs a Davante Adams type receiver or he throws a temper tantrum. We don't have that. He hurt his team's chance to win in game because he was mad a rookie receiver dropped a pass. He's also on the downside of his career and is contemplating retirement. Those are big red flags. 

LJ hasn't finished the season the past 2 years, and if the report is true, hurt his team by holding himself out of playoff relevant games because of a contract dispute. Plus he didn't hire an agent, and now is using SAS as a mouthpiece because his mom isn't getting it done as his agent. He's making some very bad decisions IMO and his playing style and injury history doesn't make me want to drop 50m a year for 5 years fully or almost fully guaranteed. 

If we're going to get a franchise QB, get him in the draft and build from there. Don't take on someone else's problems. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

8 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

 

If we're going to get a franchise QB, get him in the draft and build from there. Don't take on someone else's problems. 

You were willing to take Carr though...

 

Are you telling me Carr is better than Rodgers and Lamar?

 

I need answers because you're not making any bit of sense.

[BrisbanePanther]

1 hour ago, SameDamnThing said:

I think announcing their intentions this way, Carolina was sending a message that they were going to heavily compete for any place to move up the draft board and if a team like the Saints, Jets, Seahawks, etc. were thinking of moving up, they might want to reconsider with our commitment to unloading the clip. Sending out the vibe we're going to make a nutso offer can help eliminate competition and help that nutso offer be a little less nutso. 

That could be, but I also think that messages getting out publicly don't change the calculus much because they're all insiders. All the teams know what the other is likely to do. I think that's one reason why Seattle signed Geno--they know what Carolina (maybe others) are likely doing and it's too rich for their blood.

[TLGPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, thefuzz said:

Herbert was right there.....

Rhule not wanting to move up shows how much he doesn’t value the QB position. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You were willing to take Carr though...

 

Are you telling me Carr is better than Rodgers and Lamar?

 

I need answers because you're not making any bit of sense.

Last time I will explain this because you do not understand it at all. 

Football is a team sport. Carr may not be better than Rodgers or Lamar, but his cost to acquire could end up being significantly less and the net gain by signing Carr and adding 2 or 3 big weapons could be greater than by simply signing Rodgers or Lamar. 

How much better would Joe Burrow be without Chase and Higgins? If the Bengals had traded assets for Burrow like either of these 2, especially Lamar, they wouldn't have had the picks to get either one. You've been bitching that the Ravens haven't surrounded Lamar with elite talent. It's hard to do that without cap space and draft picks like the situation would be here if we made a move for him. And Rodgers wants more money than LJ. Cap space can be manipulated to a point, but if you aren't ready to make a SB run today, Rodgers is a bad move. 

I liked Carr on a 2-3 year deal at about 30m per season. I wouldn't have been happy with the deal he got from NO. But, that would have let us keep our picks and load up on offensive talent that we desperately need, possibly take a QB in the 1st, but not act out of desperation. It also gives us salary cap room to keep guys like Burns, Chinn, Brown, DJ, Horn, Bozeman. But Carr was not my 1st choice. He did however, give us options.  

You have to be able to put other players on the field. It doesn't matter if you have the greatest QB in the history of football if your defense can't stop an opposing offense. All their defense needs to do is stop your offense a couple of times and you lose. KC kept Hurts off the field in the SB. He didn't have a chance to win it at the end because he was on the sidelines. There has to be some semblance of balance when building a team.

If you want to go all in on Lamar or Rodgers, that's your prerogative. But you can't whine and complain we're not putting talent around them when you gave that ability away just to put them on the field. Personally, I think we need to build through the draft, but again, you have to measure and calculate what you're getting vs what you're giving up. Stroud could be the best QB in the draft, but if you take away your ability to build around him you're not doing yourself any favors either.

I prefer logical, well thought out, strategic team building focusing on maximizing gain for the least amount of cost. I like having the ability to be flexible instead of being stuck all in and hoping for the best. Guys can get knocked out of this game and their careers in an instant. You have to have some room to work around it. 

[Jon Snow]

Rapport just said the Ravens placed the non exclusive franchise tag on Lamar. 

[stratocatter]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Nobody wants a franchise QB anymore...

 

They rather sign Derek Carr and just be happy being middle of the pack.

 

 

That’s unfair. And is an effort to demean the intellect of people who don’t agree with YOU. 
 

And it is intellectually disingenuous to ignore unequal situations to make your weak ass argument. 
 

Why should people have to spend time to correct you? Just come correct in the first place. Be honest in your sales pitch’s and arguments at least. 
 

Lamar will cost a fortune Both in picks And salary. It is literally the worst deal going if that is the cost. 

[ncstatekwi]

May look like....

Saints: Carr

Falcons: L. Jackson ??????

Panthers: ???????

Bucs: Trask ???????