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8 hours ago, bobcat91 said:

Too many are wanting him because they see Cam 2.0. He isn't even close

I was getting annoyed at all the Cam isn’t a good comp for AR as if AR was beyond him. Newton’s college passing stats got him a NC and the heisman. He was so much better in college as a QB and I don’t recall a single Auburn skilled position player doing anything in the NFL.

AR isn’t close to Cam now. Maybe it’s possible that he’ll get there but Cam was a way better prospect.

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1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

I was getting annoyed at all the Cam isn’t a good comp for AR as if AR was beyond him. Newton’s college passing stats got him a NC and the heisman. He was so much better in college as a QB and I don’t recall a single Auburn skilled position player doing anything in the NFL.

AR isn’t close to Cam now. Maybe it’s possible that he’ll get there but Cam was a way better prospect.

Maybe it’s possible there is no good comp for Richardson. He’s not as polished throwing the ball yet but he’s much more athletically gifted than Cam. 
 

So clearly, not comps. It’s disrespectful to both guys. It’s because they are taller, black, heavier QBs who are mobile. Cam would break a run and get run down. That’s not going to happen with Richardson. 
 

Two very different players and sometimes we need to acknowledge there are no good comps for player X or Z. And Richardson is one of those guys. 

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10 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

couldnt you say that about any of the top guys?

No.  Stroud won't get you fired.  He's the Trevor Lawrence of this draft.

AR's got more caution tape than any QB in this draft.  He's not a first round pick.  Think about it.  Who are his college comps?

Trey Lance?  Lance had a 66% completion rate in college and played two years.  Remember, his second year was cut off by COVID.

Justin Fields?  Likewise Fields, two years of football and a 68% completion rate.

Jordan Love?  Three years of college ball and a 61% completion rate.

Cam Newton?  FFS, don't even get me started.  AR isn't in the same universe as Cam Newton.

The list goes on.  All these guys were first round QB's and AR doesn't measure up.  People want to lose their minds over a physical specimen.  Don't be fooled.  Good GM's aren't.

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11 minutes ago, BrianS said:

No.  Stroud won't get you fired.  He's the Trevor Lawrence of this draft.

AR's got more caution tape than any QB in this draft.  He's not a first round pick.  Think about it.  Who are his college comps?

Trey Lance?  Lance had a 66% completion rate in college and played two years.  Remember, his second year was cut off by COVID.

Justin Fields?  Likewise Fields, two years of football and a 68% completion rate.

Jordan Love?  Three years of college ball and a 61% completion rate.

Cam Newton?  FFS, don't even get me started.  AR isn't in the same universe as Cam Newton.

The list goes on.  All these guys were first round QB's and AR doesn't measure up.  People want to lose their minds over a physical specimen.  Don't be fooled.  Good GM's aren't.

There’s no good comp for him. We haven’t had a QB like him. 

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3 hours ago, Varking said:

Maybe it’s possible there is no good comp for Richardson. He’s not as polished throwing the ball yet but he’s much more athletically gifted than Cam. 
 

So clearly, not comps. It’s disrespectful to both guys. It’s because they are taller, black, heavier QBs who are mobile. Cam would break a run and get run down. That’s not going to happen with Richardson. 
 

Two very different players and sometimes we need to acknowledge there are no good comps for player X or Z. And Richardson is one of those guys. 

Actually, I think Cam is a good comp for AR athletically. AR ran the 40 faster but in 2011, were QBs getting a huge amount of coaching up on their 40 times.

I just was a bit annoyed when they tried to make it seem like AR was in another world athletically and almost act like AR was some unbelievable prospect compared to Cam.

Passing wise, Cam isn’t in the same zip code and outside of the 40 time and a few inches, Cam was just as athletic and also did the 3 cone type drills which AR did not. I do think QBs are better trained for numbers now than they were in 2011.

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4 hours ago, BrianS said:

No.  Stroud won't get you fired.  He's the Trevor Lawrence of this draft.

AR's got more caution tape than any QB in this draft.  He's not a first round pick.  Think about it.  Who are his college comps?

Trey Lance?  Lance had a 66% completion rate in college and played two years.  Remember, his second year was cut off by COVID.

Justin Fields?  Likewise Fields, two years of football and a 68% completion rate.

Jordan Love?  Three years of college ball and a 61% completion rate.

Cam Newton?  FFS, don't even get me started.  AR isn't in the same universe as Cam Newton.

The list goes on.  All these guys were first round QB's and AR doesn't measure up.  People want to lose their minds over a physical specimen.  Don't be fooled.  Good GM's aren't.

Agree CJ Stroud is the least likely to be a bust and therefore the only one I would trade up for.

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12 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

I was getting annoyed at all the Cam isn’t a good comp for AR as if AR was beyond him. Newton’s college passing stats got him a NC and the heisman. He was so much better in college as a QB and I don’t recall a single Auburn skilled position player doing anything in the NFL.

AR isn’t close to Cam now. Maybe it’s possible that he’ll get there but Cam was a way better prospect.

The Winning part is the biggest part.That is why a Stetson Bennett pick wouldnt be a bad thing.

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