Just how successful are the Panther TEs?

[MHS831]

I randomly selected a TE from the starting NFL TE list, and the TE with the #13 receiving grade was chosen (the 11th ranked TE overall in this PFF analysis)--Evan Engram of Jacksonville.  https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-tight-end-rankings

To make this fair, I compared his numbers to not only Ian Thomas, but threw in Tommy Tremble, Stephen Sullivan, and even Giovanni Ricci, a TE/FB special teamer.

Cumulatively, the TE position for the 2022 Carolina Panthers

• Ian Thomas (21 receptions, 197 yards, 0 TDs)
• Tommy Tremble (19 receptions, 174 yards, 3 TDs)
• Stephen Sullivan (2 receptions, 46 yards, 0 TDs)
• Giovanni Ricci (8 receptions, 100 yards, 0 TDs)

All Panther TEs: 50 Receptions (2.94 per game), 517 yards (30.4 per game) and 3 TDs (basically, an extra point per game)

Evan Engram:     86 receptions (5.56 per game), 914 yards (53.76 per game) and 6 TDs (over 2 points per game)

Engram nearly doubled the production of the entire Panther TE roster.  And now you know!

[therealmjl]

Last in TE production, 1st in dirt bike street racing

[top dawg]

20 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I randomly selected a TE from the starting NFL TE list, and the TE with the #13 receiving grade was chosen (the 11th ranked TE overall in this PFF analysis)--Evan Engram of Jacksonville.  https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-tight-end-rankings

To make this fair, I compared his numbers to not only Ian Thomas, but threw in Tommy Tremble, Stephen Sullivan, and even Giovanni Ricci, a TE/FB special teamer.

Cumulatively, the TE position for the 2022 Carolina Panthers

• Ian Thomas (21 receptions, 197 yards, 0 TDs)
• Tommy Tremble (19 receptions, 174 yards, 3 TDs)
• Stephen Sullivan (2 receptions, 46 yards, 0 TDs)
• Giovanni Ricci (8 receptions, 100 yards, 0 TDs)

All Panther TEs: 50 Receptions (2.94 per game), 517 yards (30.4 per game) and 3 TDs (basically, an extra point per game)

Evan Engram:     86 receptions (5.56 per game), 914 yards (53.76 per game) and 6 TDs (over 2 points per game)

Engram nearly doubled the production of the entire Panther TE roster.  And now you know!

But you have to also look at the context. I know that it may not be completely right, but I have to take the Rhule effect into (heavily-weighted) account. 

I did give you pie for Andrew Yang though. 

I still want to draft a more complete TE though, very much so.

Edited March 4, 2023 by top dawg

[LinvilleGorge]

Our TEs are trash. The whole unit is comprised of guys who should be scrapping to make a roster as the 3rd TE.

[MHS831]

6 minutes ago, top dawg said:

But you have to also look at the context. I know that it may not be completely right, but I have to take the Rhule effect into (heavily-weighted) account. 

I did give you pie for Andrew Yang though. 

I still want to draft a more complete TE though, very much so.

There are so many variables, and Andrew Yang should be on our staff--are you reading this Tepper?

[MHS831]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Our TEs are trash. The whole unit is comprised of guys who should be scrapping to make a roster as the 3rd TE.

I think Tremble could be a #3 TE, blocking back (FB)--we loved his blocking at Notre Dame, and then we put Ricci in that role.  I dunno.  Thomas' contract was nearly as dumb as the Anderson contract, causing me to lose faith in Fitterer (but I do not think he had much choice in the case of Thomas)

[L-TownCat]

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I think Tremble could be a #3 TE, blocking back (FB)--we loved his blocking at Notre Dame, and then we put Ricci in that role.  I dunno.  Thomas' contract was nearly as dumb as the Anderson contract, causing me to lose faith in Fitterer (but I do not think he had much choice in the case of Thomas)

I think Fitts miscalculated pretty badly on Thomas. He definitely talked up his speed and potential. I think he thought he was getting a potentially elite TE on a bargain.

[heel31ok]

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Our TEs are trash. The whole unit is comprised of guys who should be scrapping to make a roster as the 3rd TE.

The handlers were trash. 

[jayboogieman]

54 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

And now you know!

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

The handlers were trash. 

And when both are trash...

you get the Carolina Panthers' TE production.

[rayzor]

Keep Tremble. Replace the rest. Draft one day 2 and pick up one in FA.

[heel31ok]

32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And when both are trash...

you get the Carolina Panthers' TE production.

 But they are not...

So

[LinvilleGorge]

22 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Keep Tremble. Replace the rest. Draft one day 2 and pick up one in FA.

This would my preference. Thomas post-June 1st cut, sign someone in FA (maybe Gesicki) to start, draft someone to develop (there's at least 6 or 7 guys in this draft that look like future potential starters), keep Tremble as #3.