Combine Drills: Quarterback Day

[rebelrouser]

2 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

He won’t be at 9.. Ppl need to understand this is the new reality now.. 

I'm not so sure about that. Since 1990 (could go back farther i got tired of scrolling) only 3 qb's have gone in the top ten of the draft. Never 4.  Levis would be the fourth and set a new record.

All qbs drafted

[ForJimmy]

6 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

 

I seem to remember a poster on the huddle sharing numerous stories about Tepper being fond of Stroud. Mainly, I remember this because of my reaction to this news.  Shrugs.... I dont know if I can google these rumors, haha.

Tepper was high on Fields for his draft. Maybe you are remembering that? There was a rumor he was high on Levis but that was before last season.

[Stuart Smith]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Newspapers are a dead business and they've been in managed decline mode for my entire adult life. I had to unfollow my local small town newspaper on social media because it was just completely trash. Celebrity gossip, national level culture war BS, etc. Like you're a small town (sub-20k) western NC newspaper. I'm following you for local stories. When I couldn't even find the sports schedule for the local HS playoff games anywhere on their site I was like... oh just fug off and fold already. LOL!

 

 

Very true. Newspapers filled a worthy purpose with local news, local High School sports, etc. Most were not big money makers, but they were a huge part of the local community. Unfortunately they are a casualty of the digital age. The local paper where I live has been sold four times, is now down to 3 days a week by mail delivery. I have to go to the local high schools web site or max preps to see if the team(s) schedule. It is sad. I subscribe to the Charlotte Observer digital to follow the Panthers, and follow this site. 

[Sub Zero]

1 hour ago, rebelrouser said:

I'm not so sure about that. Since 1990 (could go back farther i got tired of scrolling) only 3 qb's have gone in the top ten of the draft. Never 4.  Levis would be the fourth and set a new record.

All qbs drafted

You might not be sure but that’s not reality at this point.. Showing history doesn’t change the situation now.. Hou, Indy, Seattle, La, Atlanta, even Detroit could take a Qb… That’s 6 teams infront of us.. Washington, Tampa, NO all have the aggression to trade up ahead of us.. There are only 4 1st round graded QB’s in this draft… None of their stocks have drop but increased..  At this point the math says you’re not getting a QB at 9..

[Mage]

13 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

He was propped up by the hype machine. Again, this is not a played to player comparison to AR. This is tempering expectations on where the pro teams actually see these guys being drafted. 
 

they know way better than anyone else. Teams knew last year Malik wasn’t gonna go first round… but media, Vegas, sources and analysts all were saying Malik could be taken by the lions as their top pick. 

But (most) people didn't think that because they thought Willis was a great prospect.  They thought that because they felt he was QB1 in the draft and QB1's tend to get over-drafted.  Last year was the lowest a QB was drafted 1st since 1997.  Who could have really seen that coming?

Don't get me wrong, I get what you are trying to say, but the situations are completely different.  Willis was projected to go high because he was seen by some as the best QB in a terrible QB draft.  Richardson is expected to go high not because the class is weak but because he's legitimately a special talent from a physical standpoint.  LIS I seriously seriously seriously doubt he falls like Willis did.

[MechaZain]

Richardson and Stroud killed it and Levis arm strength is admittedly impressive.  Guy has a laser.

[heel31ok]

9 hours ago, Sub Zero said:

You might not be sure but that’s not reality at this point.. Showing history doesn’t change the situation now.. Hou, Indy, Seattle, La, Atlanta, even Detroit could take a Qb… That’s 6 teams infront of us.. Washington, Tampa, NO all have the aggression to trade up ahead of us.. There are only 4 1st round graded QB’s in this draft… None of their stocks have drop but increased..  At this point the math says you’re not getting a QB at 9..

Good, dodge that bullet and take bpa  at 9.Unless we move up for Anderson.

[rayzor]

12 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

LaDainian Tomlinson just compared Stroud to Geno Smith and Levis to Josh Allen. Baldy couldn't come up with a comparison for Richardson.  Said if he gets the right situation behind a good vet qb he could end up being the best of the class. Take that however you want.

i wonder which Geno Smith? the one that took 10 years to come alive or the one that we see now?

as far as the levis:allen comp....maybe. i think he's almost got as much work as AR to do to gain accuracy. my least favorite of the four. probably the lowest ceiling of them and second lowest floor. he does have a future as a mayonnaise spokesman. 

i actually think that you could start AR day one as long as you had an offense planned around his capabilities/limitations now. same with any of these guys. and then let the program grow as they grow...but keep them growing. AR has the room for growth, probably more than the rest of them, and he's got the drive, intelligence, and work ethic to do it. 

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i wonder which Geno Smith? the one that took 10 years to come alive or the one that we see now?

as far as the levis:allen comp....maybe. i think he's almost got as much work as AR to do to gain accuracy. my least favorite of the four. probably the lowest ceiling of them and second lowest floor. he does have a future as a mayonnaise spokesman. 

i actually think that you could start AR day one as long as you had an offense planned around his capabilities/limitations now. same with any of these guys. and then let the program grow as they grow...but keep them growing. AR has the room for growth, probably more than the rest of them, and he's got the drive, intelligence, and work ethic to do it. 

He was comparing them to the intangibles they displayed.  He and Baldy, especially Baldy, said Richardson needed a vet to sit behind and learn. Didn't sound like either thought he was a day 1 starter. I tend to agree with them both.

[TheCasillas]

34 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He was comparing them to the intangibles they displayed.  He and Baldy, especially Baldy, said Richardson needed a vet to sit behind and learn. Didn't sound like either thought he was a day 1 starter. I tend to agree with them both.

This morning on NFL network they were talking about AR being taken in the 7-11 range. They were basically speaking to the fact that if you trade up for AR and give up a bunch of picks for him...  you are pretty much setting him up for failure with the lack of talent around him nor protential to get talent in the future. 

However, they did say.... if teams like the panthers, Jets, 49ers or Saints were to go get him... he would likely be successful because of the team thats already in place. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

This morning on NFL network they were talking about AR being taken in the 7-11 range. They were basically speaking to the fact that if you trade up for AR and give up a bunch of picks for him...  you are pretty much setting him up for failure with the lack of talent around him nor protential to get talent in the future. 

However, they did say.... if teams like the panthers, Jets, 49ers or Saints were to go get him... he would likely be successful because of the team thats already in place. 

Yeah that is going to be the speculation.  If we were to sign Carr and stay put at 9 I'm going to be real interested at what they do if 1 of the 4 are sitting there when we pick.

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He was comparing them to the intangibles they displayed.  He and Baldy, especially Baldy, said Richardson needed a vet to sit behind and learn. Didn't sound like either thought he was a day 1 starter. I tend to agree with them both.

yeah, i'm sure he would benefit from sitting and learning behind someone and probably someone that doesn't play much at all like him. find a guy who is more of a pocket passer just to help develop that part of him. 

but if he had to or we thought that he should be starting, i think he would still develop just fine with the coaching staff we have and, again, as long as the scheme is build around what he can and can't do well and then it grows as he grows.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

yeah, i'm sure he would benefit from sitting and learning behind someone and probably someone that doesn't play much at all like him. find a guy who is more of a pocket passer just to help develop that part of him. 

but if he had to or we thought that he should be starting, i think he would still develop just fine with the coaching staff we have and, again, as long as the scheme is build around what he can and can't do well and then it grows as he grows.

Of course it would.  You just have to have a team with a coach and front office that has a year afforded to them to waste on sitting a 1st round rookie qb.

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Of course it would.  You just have to have a team with a coach and front office that has a year afforded to them to waste on sitting a 1st round rookie qb.

wouldn't hurt.