David Newton's tweet deserves own thread

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

No it doesn't 

It's better than a "Carr Watch" thread, that's for damned sure.

Edited March 1, 2023 by top dawg

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think it was because he was asked about those 2 specifically.  I didn't come away thinking he preferred either over any of the other options. I could hear (although just barely) almost all of the questions he was asked in his press conference. His response that i heard on those two came from specific questions on what he thought of each. I never heard him asked about any other qb.

From listening to the actual presser, you're spot on.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, top dawg said:

It's better than a "Carr Watch" thread, that's for damned sure.

Nah...

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nah...

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Let's put it this way...

One thread was for tracking news on a quarterback the Panthers are interested in.

Another was saying "Hey, y'all need to pay attention to this thing that David Newton said."

I can think of very few situations where that second statement would be true.

Hell, you're probably could have just put that tweet in the Carr watch thread.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[jfo89]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can tell you what I got out of the presser...

1) Both Frank Reich and Scott Fitterer like David Carr. Between the two, Reich sounded more eager and effusive but that's kinda to be expected since it's not his job to worry about what he's getting paid.

2) Fitterer might have tipped his hand a little bit on one thing: If They did sign Derek Carr, they're probably not going to use their first round pick on a quarterback. If they draft a player, the vet would likely be a bridge type.

3) Perhaps most important, those decisions haven't been made yet, but they're being discussed. It could end up going either way.

To me it sounds like they ideally want to trade up before FA starts and if they can’t get a deal done Carr is the fallback.

[ForJimmy]

55 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He's not a turnover machine.

Also there's no way Reich is playing politics, worrying about the leash Tepper is going to give him - he's here to win, end of. 

It looks like only two players (Prescott and Mills) threw more INTs than Carr last year.  His QBR and Rating were both only 1 point higher than Fields who is far from a complete product as a passer and that's with Carr have the best WR in the league.  Only 5 players threw more INTs than Carr in 2021.  There is an argument to be made he has a TO issue.  I have nothing against Carr, but those 14 INTs a year were higher than I was expecting from him at this point in his career.

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

He is, but that's kinda the point.

Newton's not a reliable source because he has a tendency to interpret things incorrectly.

I never go by what Newton says unless it's corroborated by others.

David Newton is about as dumb as they come. Anything from his mouth is probably more likely to be untrue than true.

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's put it this way...

One thread was for tracking news on a quarterback the Panthers are interested in.

Another was saying "Hey, y'all need to pay attention to this thing that David Newton said."

I can think of very few situations where that second statement would be true.

Hell, you're probably could have just put that tweet in the Carr watch thread.

Funny that I don't remember a Bridgewater, Darnold, or Mayfield Watch thread. That's the kind of thread for when something is near imminent.

I'm not into clowning reporters, but That's just me. I could've clowned Nolan Nawrocki when you were holding him up in such high esteem when he reported an incredible character assassination of Cam Newton, but I chose serious rebuttals. Just saying.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by top dawg

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Funny that I don't remember a Bridgewater, Darnold, or Mayfield Watch thread. That's the kind of thread for when something is near imminent.

I'm not into clowning reporters, but That's just me. I could've clowned Nolan Nawrocki when you were holding him up in such high esteem when he reported an incredible character assassination of Cam Newton, but I chose serious rebuttals. Just saying.

Pretty sure there were several Mayfield threads last year (not by me, though).

Carr is the highest profile free agent we've looked at in several years.

As to David Newton, well he's no Hondo...

Edited March 2, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Bear Hands]

Sounds like we could definitely be doing something at the QB position.  Call it a hunch

[Jackie Lee]

5 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I rather have Darnold at 15mil than Carr at 35mil

 

To be honest Darnold/Rookie QB doesn't sound bad. The more the days past the more I think AR is the guy they are targeting. They want to develop a QB with his skillset.

 

Im not mad at it.

Carr isn't gonna want to mentor anyone anyway. Darnold basically said he's cool with being a backup when he was doing podcasts a while back. Probably is cool with that Josh McCown career 

[Jon Snow]

11 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Sounds like we could definitely be doing something at the QB position.  Call it a hunch

I sense a disturbance in the forse that I've not felt in a long time. 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Jon Snow

[Jackie Lee]

Just got to watch, doesn't sound like they're super excited about giving Carr $35M. Fitt mentioned the game getting away from drop back pocket passers. Carr's biggest knock on the Raiders boards is he freaks out when the pocket breaks down and rushes check downs, doesn't really scramble. Sam actually has some wheels, AR and Hooker have the height and both are mobile. AR has a higher ceiling, Hooker would be kinda like the best of Darnold and Teddy combined, safer with the ball than Darnold, stronger arm and better runner than Teddy