Jalen Carter may be dropping after this

[Varking]

6 hours ago, Shocker said:

I think this could end up keeping Chicago at 1.  They will certainly want Will Anderson now and he could definitely go to Zona at 3.

This could help us if Zona will move down after missing on Anderson

This is my take for now as well. Chicago can’t drop lower than 2 if they want Anderson now. 

[Reebis21]

Didn’t read every page so forgive me if already mentioned. But was David Wesley ever charged with racing Bobby Phills? If he was, I don’t recall it ever impacting his ability to keep playing. While tragic for sure, only reason Carter slides is questions about maturity. It’s not like he’s getting a jail stint. 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Reebis21

[Raleigh PF]

7 minutes ago, Reebis21 said:

Didn’t read every page so forgive me if already mentioned. But was David Wesley ever charged with racing Bobby Phills? If he was, I don’t recall it ever impacting his ability to keep playing. While tragic for sure, only reason Carter slides is questions about maturity. It’s not like he’s getting a jail stint. 

From Wikipedia...

"David Wesley was charged in 2000 with misdemeanor reckless driving in the crash that killed his friend and teammate Bobby Phills. A Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police report said Phills was speeding at more than 100 mph (160 km/h) when Phills lost control and crossed into oncoming traffic and collided with a car. The report said both Phills and Wesley were driving "in an erratic, reckless, careless, negligent and/or aggressive manner".^[9] In a non-jury trial, a judge acquitted Wesley of the charge of racing Phills.^[10]"

[TheCasillas]

8 hours ago, heel31ok said:

It doesn't outweigh someone dead.

Yes it does. If he isn’t charged with manslaughter, nfl teams won’t blink an eye drafting him.

[Jon Snow]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Yes it does. If he isn’t charged with manslaughter, nfl teams won’t blink an eye drafting him.

No it won't.  But they were saying yesterday on nfl network that teams already had character concerns about him prior to this incident.  So he may have been off some teams boards already due to that alone. 

[joemac]

21 hours ago, Billy Love said:

Racing @ speeds > 100 mph - alcohol - accident - 2 dead. NFL draft may not be his primary concern.

Dude was driving a 700 hp Grand Cherokee with a Hellcat motor in it.  That poo is dangerous on its own lol. 

[ladypanther]

14 hours ago, top dawg said:

So, what are you saying? Should he pay for the rest of his life including jail time and be banned from the NFL?

I never said either of those things.  Where did that come from?

I think he should be given the same legal consequences that anyone else would get.  I do think what he and his friends did was incredibly stupid and reckless.  They put the lives of other innocent people at risk.  It is frightening to think that you or I could be driving down the road and be killed by idiots driving over 100 mph dodging from lane to lane.

I would not want that guy on my team.  A couple of our new coaches have mentioned how important it is to have players who are smart.  I agree.  And as I said earlier...would be hard to trust him. 

My guess is that he will get on a team when he legal situation is cleared.  

[Jackie Lee]

 

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Yes it does. If he isn’t charged with manslaughter, nfl teams won’t blink an eye drafting him.

It doesnt at all...right and legal are separate matters.How teams react doesnt make it right.

[ladypanther]

4 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

You can bet his lawyer and agent coached him up on how to show remorse and still walk that fine line of not saying anything that could be used against him in court.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

No it won't.  But they were saying yesterday on nfl network that teams already had character concerns about him prior to this incident.  So he may have been off some teams boards already due to that alone. 

I doubt he falls out of the top 10.  He is an incredible talent and the nfl doesnt care about dlineman with character concerns.  

[Zaximus]

12 hours ago, Panfan35 said:

How is Carter even responsible for this accident the staffer was driving the car drunk and made the decision to race even if Carter was right behind them which it sounds like that’s the case cause his car was struck by electric cables from the telephone pole breaking he did not cause the crash and doesn’t have a legal obligation to stay. He would have been tested and charged with dui
this is going to turn into a civil suit with a staffer partying with players driving a car leased to the university 

This is an interesting point, from a legal standpoint at least.  He was obviously speeding but he was behind that car and they caused the crash.  Legally I'm not sure he had to STAY but could be wrong.  Now, morally and character wise, it's majorly messed up to leave people behind like that that were in an accident.

[ladypanther]

12 hours ago, Panfan35 said:

How is Carter even responsible for this accident the staffer was driving the car drunk and made the decision to race even if Carter was right behind them which it sounds like that’s the case cause his car was struck by electric cables from the telephone pole breaking he did not cause the crash and doesn’t have a legal obligation to stay. He would have been tested and charged with dui
this is going to turn into a civil suit with a staffer partying with players driving a car leased to the university 

Per The Athletic:

A police investigation found that LeCroy and Carter “were operating their vehicles in a manner consistent with racing shortly after leaving the downtown Athens area at about 2:30 a.m. The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed, in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other.”

The ACCPD also reported that LeCroy was “traveling at about 104 miles per hour” shortly before the accident and her “blood alcohol concentration was .197 at the time of the crash.”

The investigation concluded that “alcohol impairment, racing, reckless driving and speed were significant contributing factors to the crash.”

Generally, before making charges the police consult with the district attorney, or whoever would be prosecuting the case. So the decision to charge Carter with two misdemeanors and nothing more would have been made jointly by the police and Athens-Clarke County district attorney. While aspects of the crash investigation are ongoing, this appears to represent finality, at least as far as major developments.

https://theathletic.com/4264525/2023/03/01/jalen-carter-georgia-arrest-warrant/

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

This is an interesting point, from a legal standpoint at least.  He was obviously speeding but he was behind that car and they caused the crash.  Legally I'm not sure he had to STAY but could be wrong.  Now, morally and character wise, it's majorly messed up to leave people behind like that that were in an accident.

I think lying to the cops repeatedly is the biggest of the issues but he could just chalk that up to being scared after seeing the wreck.  But lying to the cops is bad.