Do we have the personnel to Run a 3-4?

[OneBadCat]

I think we have guys who could succeed like Burns, Haynes, Luvu, and Smith. But I am concerned about Brown in a 3-4 seems like he's starting to blossom. Would hate to see him have a setback in a new scheme.

[thefuzz]

No, but the same can be said currently for a 4/3.

We will need a nose, and a 5 tech, as well as another pass rusher.

YGM may be able to play, but he's not shown enough yet to be a starter.  Smith, if he can play, could be that guy, or he may be able to hold the middle.  Not sure if he's good, or just a good athlete yet.

Need one more safety, and some depth for the line.  Burns could absolutely eat in a 3/4.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Barno was meant to be an outside OLB in a 3-4. Totally forgot about Brandon Smith, who is someone I have high hopes to being a breakout dude

 

 

[jayboogieman]

3 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I call and raise you

Desmond Watson is 6'5" and weighs 415 lbs

[Mistuh Jones]

I think Barno is finna eat like he smoked a whole quarter in 2 blunts this year LOL 

[SmokinwithWilly]

49 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I call and raise you

Desmond Watson is 6'5" and weighs 415 lbs

My knees hurt looking at the size of this guy

[tiger7_88]

7 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

We can make it work. Burns and Luvu on the edges with Derrick Brown as a 5-tech. We'd need to find another 5-tech and a nose tackle but that can be done in free agency.

Just having Burns play edge in this scheme is going to be worth it, IMO. And don't underestimate Frankie Luvu either.

As you note, the best use of Brown in this defense is probably not on the nose.  That being said, he lined up on the nose plenty against SEC competition while at Auburn (the DC moved him all along the DL for match-ups and unpredictability) and played the position at a high level, so he has the ability and (college) experience if needed.

[Basbear]

Sorta wished they kept Hospkins and Nixon around.....both could have had roles in this 3-4 D........

[Carl Spackler]

One of Barno and Haynes will ball out this season

[Jay Roosevelt]

14 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

As you note, the best use of Brown in this defense is probably not on the nose.  That being said, he lined up on the nose plenty against SEC competition while at Auburn (the DC moved him all along the DL for match-ups and unpredictability) and played the position at a high level, so he has the ability and (college) experience if needed.

Yeah, I could see him playing either and he gives us that versatility regardless. But he's probably better suited as a 5-tech as his base position. Not a bad problem to have, figuring out where to put a talented player.

[Rags]

3-4/4-3 rarely happens. 3-4 DB sets matter more and more, and most defense just use designated packages with heavy lineman when they want to stop the run. 

In that regard, I do think we need either an established NT or an UT type of guy so we can have DB do the opposite. I like our depth otherwise, solid rotational guys.

 

Honestly, I feel like we have a lot of "Batmans" on defense but no Robins to compliment them atm. Dontes questionable when he returns after his injury and the edge across from BB is well noted.

Edited February 23, 2023 by Rags

[Basbear]

10 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

One of Barno and Haynes will ball out this season

I think both will.......per dollar wise, Id take haynes over whatever 100+ burn contract will get....haynes is on the same level for run D and just a couple levels below. High effort player.

Luvu should be demon form hell as well......... need about 7 games before we will know how this works. Panthers got some 3-4 sleepers.....

[CPantherKing]

Current personnel leans to a 3-5-3

Two 4 tech and a 0 tech on DL. Brown - McCall - Ioanidis. Likely upgrade at NT in draft. DE too if Jalen Carter falls to 9.

Burns and Barno at Edge LB with Shaq, Luvu, and Chinn at ILBs. Shaq and Chinn would rotate out to SS positions post snap when not playing in the box.

Horn, Franklin, Henderson as DBs.

To play a traditional 34, 2 ILBs needed with Shaq bumping out to SS and Chinn staying at FS. Drafting Sewell and Campbell for ILB would be an easy fix. The versatility of Shaq and Chinn would allow this 34 defense 2 joker safeties that can line up and fill anywhere on the field rather than a traditional 34 SS/FS.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Sorta wished they kept Hospkins and Nixon around.....both could have had roles in this 3-4 D........

Hoskins is a free agent