PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick

[Kentucky Panther]

I think and hope we pick Stroud. But part of me would love the Levis pick to see some of the posters on here cry themselves to sleep. 

[WUnderhill]

On 2/21/2023 at 3:46 PM, pantherj said:

Imagine Fitt whiffs on that QB pick, and then we have no 1st in 2024/2025, and good free agent QBs don't want to come here. Can't do that.

I don’t see why we would be looking for good FA QBs to come here over the next 2 years if we traded all that to pick a QB #1 overall. Whoever we pick would automatically be the starter for the next 3-4 years barring injury.

Edited February 22, 2023 by WUnderhill

[JawnyBlaze]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Continued...

 

 

You also don’t hire four world class chefs and give them dog food to cook with. 
 

(not that I necessarily believe Levis is dog food, but compared to Stroud and Young he is)

Edited February 22, 2023 by JawnyBlaze

[Jackie Lee]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kaye on Levis...

Remembering again that Coen and Brown were colleagues in Los Angeles

If he had such tremendous success in 2021 he would have declared for the 22 draft and been the 1st QB gone. He returned to school because he was projected to go day 2/3. 

[TheCasillas]

28 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

If he had such tremendous success in 2021 he would have declared for the 22 draft and been the 1st QB gone. He returned to school because he was projected to go day 2/3. 

That's not true. 

Around this time last year, Will Levis’ name was not only being brought up to be the first QB taken in the 2023 NFL Draft, but in the 2022 NFL Draft as well. The senior QB for the Kentucky Wildcats threw for 2,826 passing yards and 24 touchdowns as Kentucky won 10 games, including their bowl victory over Iowa.

 

We have no idea why he returned to KY but it wasnt due to him being a potential mid round draft pick. 

[Jackie Lee]

11 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

That's not true. 

Around this time last year, Will Levis’ name was not only being brought up to be the first QB taken in the 2023 NFL Draft, but in the 2022 NFL Draft as well. The senior QB for the Kentucky Wildcats threw for 2,826 passing yards and 24 touchdowns as Kentucky won 10 games, including their bowl victory over Iowa.

 

We have no idea why he returned to KY but it wasnt due to him being a potential mid round draft pick. 

I could do this all day as well if you want to quote SB Nation articles

Pro Football Network recently updated their seven-round 2022 NFL Mock Draft, and they now have six Wildcats getting selected.

Will Levis is the third Cat to come off the board as a fourth-round pick going 108^th overall to the Seattle Seahawks. After a few weeks where Levis struggled, he has completely turned it around stringing together two quality performances against LSU and Georgia.

[frankw]

If this staff were sold on him and we took Levis at 9 I could live with it and hope for the best. But if we trade up for anyone it should be Stroud.

[Rocky Davis]

One less 1st Round Pick - the 2025 and I would do the deal in the original post.

If you have to throw in a 2024 2nd round pick - risk is still too great to give all that up.  Of course it's Chicago's ballgame.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, WUnderhill said:

I don’t see why we would be looking for good FA QBs to come here over the next 2 years if we traded all that to pick a QB #1 overall. Whoever we pick would automatically be the starter for the next 3-4 years barring injury.

Solid point. 

[csx]

2 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

I don’t see why we would be looking for good FA QBs to come here over the next 2 years if we traded all that to pick a QB #1 overall. Whoever we pick would automatically be the starter for the next 3-4 years barring injury.

 

Unless they suck as bad as Zach Wilson.  But then again free agents respond to money above all else.

Edited February 23, 2023 by csx

[stan786]

9 minutes ago, csx said:

 

Unless they suck as bad as Zach Wilson.  But then again free agents respond to money above all else.

Yeah that’s what I was going to say it’s not like Free Agents aren’t looking at the Jets. Also a decent number of failed QBs have  still gotten picks back if you cut bait early enough. Wentz got a 1, Darnold got a 2, Rosen got a 2. 
 

Just depends on the situation really. Even a failed QB may not be end of the world really.

[TheCasillas]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

I could do this all day as well if you want to quote SB Nation articles

Pro Football Network recently updated their seven-round 2022 NFL Mock Draft, and they now have six Wildcats getting selected.

Will Levis is the third Cat to come off the board as a fourth-round pick going 108^th overall to the Seattle Seahawks. After a few weeks where Levis struggled, he has completely turned it around stringing together two quality performances against LSU and Georgia.

This really doenst support anything you are attempting to defend..... I am honeslty not even sure  what you are attempting to say here tbh.... 

That mock drafts shouldnt be done at the begining of october, bc they are pointless and pure concjecture? If so, that tracks.

[Jackie Lee]

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

This really doenst support anything you are attempting to defend..... I am honeslty not even sure  what you are attempting to say here tbh.... 

That mock drafts shouldnt be done at the begining of october, bc they are pointless and pure concjecture? If so, that tracks.

How about a Giants mock draft from mid December 2021 then?

Round 5, 147th Overall: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky

No matter what the New York Giants do in terms of addressing the quarterback position, finding a suitable backup would be a good call. Whether it’s Daniel Jones or even Russell Wilson in 2022, Mike Glennon and Jake Fromm aren’t likely to end up backups next season.

It’s unclear if he’ll enter the 2022 NFL Draft at this point, but Will Levis is an intriguing day three quarterback who made a ton of noise in 2021. Levis has a solid arm and flashed good placement on the deep ball for the Wildcats. With some development, Levis can become a capable backup and spot starter for the Giants.

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

How about a Giants mock draft from mid December 2021 then?

Round 5, 147th Overall: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky

No matter what the New York Giants do in terms of addressing the quarterback position, finding a suitable backup would be a good call. Whether it’s Daniel Jones or even Russell Wilson in 2022, Mike Glennon and Jake Fromm aren’t likely to end up backups next season.

It’s unclear if he’ll enter the 2022 NFL Draft at this point, but Will Levis is an intriguing day three quarterback who made a ton of noise in 2021. Levis has a solid arm and flashed good placement on the deep ball for the Wildcats. With some development, Levis can become a capable backup and spot starter for the Giants.