Panthers met with Hooker per report

[stan786]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's how you wind up with a Malik Willis.

A 3rd round QB who doesn’t look ready? We have one of those already.

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Hooker would fit what Reich looks for in a QB in his system. 

C.J. Stroud, Hooker, Tanner McKee in that order 

That was my thought as well when Frank was hired.  Those 3, in that order 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, stan786 said:

A 3rd round QB who doesn’t look ready? We have one of those already.

But we didn't use a top ten pick to get him.

This notion that you can just take a guy with good physical characteristics and teach him how to play quarterback at the pro level has blown up in more than one team's faces.

[ForJimmy]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

All of these top rookies are going to need a vet qb in the room to get things started.

True or you could pulls a Buffalo and just have him tough it out while running a simpler offense with designed QB runs.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

True or you could pulls a Buffalo and just have him tough it out while running a simpler offense with designed QB runs.

And basically do the same thing to him that the Panthers did to Newton.

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And basically do the same thing to him that the Panthers did to Newton.

Good point, but I think Newton was a much more polished passer coming out than AR.  I could be wrong though, it's hard to tell with the system/talent around them.  

[Byrdman4real]

Great TEs are dominating today and we need a game changer

Michael Mayer will demand attention that would free up the WRs. I would trade back and pick him in the 1st. 

Early second would be WR or Hooker. 

Late second would be DE, LB or S

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wundrbread33]

Hooker and Corral both have the physical ability to be NFL QB’s. 
 

Would just need one of them to have what it takes between the ears. 
 

If the option is trade 3 1sts to move up, vs Hooker in the 2nd while adding more premium draft talent to the roster, I’m going option two all day. 

[stan786]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

But we didn't use a top ten pick to get him.

This notion that you can just take a guy with good physical characteristics and teach him how to play quarterback at the pro level has blown up in more than one team's faces.

Sure but Willis was a short multi year starter at a low tier school that struggled with a ton of things QBs do like working a pocket. Just because he had hype by draft Twitter doesn’t mean the NFL felt that way and they proved it with where they took him.

Richardson while raw both Physically and Film wise is much much different than Willis and it’s a lazy comp. Examples of Raw QBs with elite physical traits going in the top 10 is pretty low with like Allen and Lance being the two to draw from probably in recent years, it’s pretty rare an nfl team will throw a top 10 pick ONLY due to upside with QBs.

NFL teams waited till the 3rd for Willis for a reason and with the Titans investment it’s not going to set them back very far.  I’m very curious where they take Richardson think that’ll tell us a lot more about his skillset. I don’t necessarily want him but taking a flyer on athleticism in the third is a way different story than top 10.

Edited February 21, 2023 by stan786

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And basically do the same thing to him that the Panthers did to Newton.

Mahomes and Rodgers were both backups for a year (or more) while refining their abilities, prior to being awarded their starting positions.

Mohomes recently credited Alex Smith with shortening his learning curve, saying what he learned in three months w/Alex's help might have taken him up to three years to learn on his own.

Having time to sit and absorb information without the unrelenting pressure of being a starting NFL QB is invaluable.  Even for the most talented rookie QBs.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, RumHam said:

Dude is one hit away from being a wasted pick

True.

Also true of any other player we might draft in the early rounds.  

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, stan786 said:

Sure but Willis was a short multi year starter at a low tier school that struggled with a ton of things QBs do like working a pocket. Just because he had hype by draft Twitter doesn’t mean the NFL felt that way and they proved it with where they took him.

Richardson while raw both Physically and Film wise is much much different than Willis and it’s a lazy comp. Examples of Raw QBs with elite physical traits going in the top 10 is pretty low with like Allen and Lance being the two to draw from probably in recent years, it’s pretty rare an nfl team will throw a top 10 pick ONLY due to upside with QBs.

NFL teams waited till the 3rd for Willis for a reason and with the Titans investment it’s not going to set them back very far.  I’m very curious where they take Richardson think that’ll tell us a lot more about his skillset. I don’t necessarily want him but taking a flyer on athleticism in the third is a way different story than top 10.

Willis was also projected to be a top ten pick prior to the draft.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Willis was also projected to be a top ten pick prior to the draft.

Until logic prevailed

[stan786]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Willis was also projected to be a top ten pick prior to the draft.

Exactly, the NFL will tell us most of what we need to know with Richardson based on where he goes in the actual draft. If an NFL team is actually investing a top 10 pick into him its an apples and oranges comparison to Willis.