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CJ Stroud's tape is a Pleaseant Surprise

Ricky Spanish

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Not handling pressure well nor being able to deliver off platform throws when having to improvise are fairly damning traits for an NFL QB prospect.

If Stroud is the guy, then the hope is that the Georgia game is the type of player he is rather than can be.

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What's said about him ad nauseam is the "out of structure" habits.  When plays break down, he does have what I'll call a delay switch that is far less forgiving in the NFL.  It's there, even as a fan I'll acknowledge it. 

However, it is his mid and deep ball accuracy & touch is just hard to ignore.  His accuracy is on another level compared to most QBs coming out.  He seems to balance his risk/reward very well in respect to making throws and shows great anticipation.  I mean, he's thrown some absolutely bananas Sunday-level balls these past few years.  

In that respect, I actually think he's shown great ability to create, this showed this very well the tail end of 21 and then 22 as well as many saw against UGA.  What I think people have seen--is that early on in seasons he plays safe and within what was manageable, cruising to wins off the full team talent load.  As stakes went up, he adjusted his aggressiveness and risk taking that led to nice play creation and showed off his intangibles quite nicely as well.   He has very subtle but sly moves in the pocket to stay standing tall and over the line.  He also calls audibles and protections effectively.  For example--Darnold still can't call protections well.  And through all of that, he doesn't lose anything mechanically, not issues at all.  

Arm strength, if you group all active-NFL starters, I'd say he's top-20.  Probably around Dak.   

Totally for him.  Worth the risk and worth a trade up.  The argument will get more dicey the higher that trade up is, but I see a tremendous ceiling with this kid.  And honestly, a high floor.  He's made to do this QB thing.  

 

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9 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

What’s his arm strength like? I’ve heard everything from he can make every throw to he doesn’t have a big arm. I guess both of those can be true at the same time. I haven’t heard much about him having a cannon, though. 

im not a fan of Charles Robinson, but here’s his take on ranking arm strength among this year’s leading qb prospects. Stroud is at around the 5 minute mark, higher than young and duggan, same tier as hooker, below levis and richardson 

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20 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

im not a fan of Charles Robinson, but here’s his take on ranking arm strength among this year’s leading qb prospects. Stroud is at around the 5 minute mark, higher than young and duggan, same tier as hooker, below levis and richardson 

I've seen a couple of qb rankings where Hooker is ranked ahead of Levis and Richardson.  I've seen the McGee kid ranked ahead of AR in them as well. Take that for what is worth.  

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1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

I’m just being playful at this point. In all honesty, whichever QB we land … I hope they crush it. 
 

I just feel Levi’s is that guy.

Oh I'm just messing with you.  I'll be happy if Reich thinks Levis is his guy.  It feels nice to actually trust the staff.  I could see us getting into the top 3 which guarantees Stroud, Levis, or Young.

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14 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Oh I'm just messing with you.  I'll be happy if Reich thinks Levis is his guy.  It feels nice to actually trust the staff.  I could see us getting into the top 3 which guarantees Stroud, Levis, or Young.

The thing about Levis is that he played his college ball at Kentucky.  Not exactly a bastion of college football talent.  You can tell from his tape that he has elite physical tools.  I can see why some pro teams are drooling over him.  Pair him up with NFL talent and NFL coaching and he COULD explode.  Or he could be terrible.  Its such a crap shoot with these dudes.

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40 minutes ago, joemac said:

The thing about Levis is that he played his college ball at Kentucky.  Not exactly a bastion of college football talent.  You can tell from his tape that he has elite physical tools.  I can see why some pro teams are drooling over him.  Pair him up with NFL talent and NFL coaching and he COULD explode.  Or he could be terrible.  Its such a crap shoot with these dudes.

I don't think people want to hear it but if we trade up to 1 my money is on us taking Levis. 

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