Carr Watch

[Krovvy]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

We can covet Carr and still not be up to that level of contract. I think the Saints overpaid. That typically happens early. I'd be more concerned how they're going to build around him with where that leaves them with cap space, I know it's imaginary, and draft picks. I suspect if they hit on their picks well, they'll be laughing all the way to the NFCS title for several years. If not, that'll be a different story. 

As much as I didn't want Carr. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's an overpay. The market is what it is, and quarterbacks are seemingly getting rarer with the big names retiring. If you believe in one, you pay them. Especially with the ever expanding cap, which can be manipulated.

[Krovvy]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Who cares?  If you think he is full of it why are you wasting so much of your time on him?  If you think it's just an alt trolling just ignore it.  He hasn't really said anything too crazy for it to be a troll IMO, just mainly listing out a timeline and our possible next moves.  Crown (the other leaker) actually threw out some staff names before the hires.  If either of them are legit I'd like to keep them around.

Because it's interesting. A lot of people claim to have sources and usually they get laughed at. A random no name account with hardly any posts and they're a soothsayer that's worth defending?

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Krovvy said:

As much as I didn't want Carr. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's an overpay. The market is what it is, and quarterbacks are seemingly getting rarer with the big names retiring. If you believe in one, you pay them. Especially with the ever expanding cap, which can be manipulated.

I Carr could be good with a different coach. Dennis Allen brings him down a level IMO. Just like Rhule brought down everyone who played under him. He couldn't overcome his coaching once. I don't think he does it now. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Who cares?  If you think he is full of it why are you wasting so much of your time on him?  If you think it's just an alt trolling just ignore it.  He hasn't really said anything too crazy for it to be a troll IMO, just mainly listing out a timeline and our possible next moves.  Crown (the other leaker) actually threw out some staff names before the hires.  If either of them are legit I'd like to keep them around.

This is apparently too much to ask.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Because it's interesting. A lot of people claim to have sources and usually they get laughed at. A random no name account with hardly any posts and they're a soothsayer that's worth defending?

People get laughed at because they get things embarrassingly wrong.

This person hasn't been wrong at all, and they've provided plenty of good info that wasn't found anywhere else.

For the record, so did The Crown and the Claw.

[Krovvy]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

People get laughed at because they get things embarrassingly wrong.

This person hasn't been wrong at all, and they've provided plenty of good info that wasn't found anywhere else.

For the record, so did The Crown and the Claw.

Okay, new guy was wrong, happens. 

[ForJimmy]

7 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Because it's interesting. A lot of people claim to have sources and usually they get laughed at. A random no name account with hardly any posts and they're a soothsayer that's worth defending?

I'd just prefer to get leaks if they are real.  If it was something obvious like the Panthers will hire Wilks as their HC in the next few days (no offense to Wilks) and they were 100% wrong then sure call them out.  Or the Panthers will draft X player and they don't, but real sources typically won't have that kind of detail because our franchise doesn't want it to get out....

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Okay, new guy was wrong, happens. 

The full quote you are talking about is where he said the Panthers have two options.  Option A- Carr and Option B- draft with a bridge QB.  That doesn't imply they prefer A over B, it's simply listing them out.  He said Reich and Brown were high on Carr, apparently Fitt was not or his price was too high.  

[Jon Snow]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Those Carr topics did something to me. Dude was popping into my dreams.

[Krovvy]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

The full quote you are talking about is where he said the Panthers have two options.  Option A- Carr and Option B- draft with a bridge QB.  That doesn't imply they prefer A over B, it's simply listing them out.  He said Reich and Brown were high on Carr, apparently Fitt was not or his price was too high.  

I get it. He basically was saying what pretty much everyone has said regarding the Panthers. They'll either sign a free agent or draft a quarterback. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

10 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

I get it. He basically was saying what pretty much everyone has said regarding the Panthers. They'll either sign a free agent or draft a quarterback. 

Simply listening to Reich and Fitterer at the combine should have been enough for anyone to realize the team was fully exploring their options at QB.  No insider info required.

[TheMostInterestingMan]

Wait, what? Krovvy is acting like a pretentious dick to a poster for no reason other than he likes to get off on how much cooler and smarter he thinks he is compared to everyone else? And when he gets called out on doing it he just keeps doubling down and can’t admit he’s wrong thinking this somehow verifies he’s correct when all of does is show everyone is arguing with his much of a douche he’s being in that moment? I’m shocked. I’ve never seen him do that before. Never!

[Krovvy]

7 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Simply listening to Reich and Fitterer at the combine should have been enough for anyone to realize the team was fully exploring their options at QB.  No insider info required.

Pretty much. It's what the team needs. The coaching staff was designed to develop a quarterback, one way or another.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Simply listening to Reich and Fitterer at the combine should have been enough for anyone to realize the team was fully exploring their options at QB.  No insider info required.

Fitterer has a long stated preference for the "draft and develop" route so he's being consistent.

According to Person, the Panthers interest in Carr was driven primarily by Frank Reich. Fitterer was agreeable to it but didn't want to overspend.

I said all along I was okay either way but the positive part of this decision for me is that it shows we're not "desperate" as some have described us to be.