Carr Watch

[Sgt Schultz]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

One of these days im going to click on a thread that the huddle deems “hot!” and it won’t open to a pointless argument between posters.

Nah, trees will tap dance before that happens.

[ECHornet]

Some people want to pay Carr $35 million per year to give us what Mitch Trubisky could for $6mil  

Both have 64% completion percentages. Add in the rushing advantage Trubisky gives you and Carr amounts to ~3 more TDs a season. Crazy talk to give this man over $100mil to play QB.

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

If he was a franchise QB I think he would have still been with the Raiders. 

That's debatable. Rumors were it was between McDaniels and Carr to go and Davis couldn't afford to fire McDaniels and one had to go. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So Carr has no accountability?

 

Hopefully he signs with a team with a good defense. I would love for him to be in a winning situation which is why I think the Jets/49ers are the perfect fit for him.

Did I say that? You're just trying to compare apples and oranges and when people point that out then you try to attribute an argument to them that they haven't actually made. In what universe are the Jets a "winning situation"? If you want to see him in a good situation, we're at least as appealing as the Jets.

[La Pantera]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If he was a franchise QB I think he would have still been with the Raiders. 

For the former coach who traded off Jay Cutler to draft The Golden Calf of Bristol??

Let's not act like McDaniels made sound choices...

[frankw]

If we do sign him I look forward to seeing who will be blamed when he turns the ball over. Some of you are literally engaging in the same behavior you used to talk yourselves into Darnold. It's both hilarious and sad.

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Jets weakness is QB. 

Now do the Panthers.

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If he was a franchise QB I think he would have still been with the Raiders. 

Would you say that if Reich were a great head coach he'd still be with the Colts?

It's the same logic.

[LinvilleGorge]

26 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You should know if our roster is good enough to win a SB with Carr or not.

 

My opinion is not what you will like to hear because I say the same thing daily about Carr. 

 

We can agree to disagree on this subject.

 

 

I don't think our roster is any worse than the Jets'.

[Cdparr7]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

Some people want to pay Carr $35 million per year to give us what Mitch Trubisky could for $6mil  

Both have 64% completion percentages. Add in the rushing advantage Trubisky gives you and Carr amounts to ~3 more TDs a season. Crazy talk to give this man over $100mil to play QB.

 

Are you mentally handicapped? That’s a 1000 yd difference per season and like 6 TDs more per year.

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by Cdparr7

[ECHornet]

24 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Are you mentally handicapped? That’s a 1000 yd difference per season and like 6 TDs more per year.

 

Not when you look at total TDs as I mentioned. 
 

And the additional passing yards per game for Carr is a product of 7 more passing attempts per game. If Carr kept the same yards/attempt he’s put up over his career, and only threw 27.6 times a game like Trubisky, he’d average 196 passing yards per game. 10 more than Trubisky while rushing for 17 yards less per game. 
 

Try actually interpreting the data before calling someone handicapped. 

[Shocker]

Derek Carr is declining and is looking for a big payday.  

[Cdparr7]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

Not when you look at total TDs as I mentioned. 
 

And the additional passing yards per game for Carr is a product of 7 more passing attempts per game. If Carr kept the same yards/attempt he’s put up over his career, and only threw 27.6 times a game like Trubisky, he’d average 196 passing yards per game. 10 more than Trubisky while rushing for 17 yards less per game. 
 

Try actually interpreting the data before calling someone handicapped. 

I was being polite by not using the r-word which was exactly what I interpreted it as. That’s a lot of reaching and washing statistics to fit your point of view. 
 

What do you say to the total yards over the same amount of time or even per attempt? Or total TDs over the same amount of time, 4th quarter comebacks, game winning drives, etc? Throw the full comparison out there. 

 

“Brett Favre must have been a terrible QB because he had a .5% higher interception rate than Baker Mayfield”

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Edited March 1, 2023 by Cdparr7
Needed the gif for clarity.

[ECHornet]

@Cdparr7: “What do you say to the total yards over the same amount of time or even per attempt? Or total TDs over the same amount of time, 4th quarter comebacks, game winning drives, etc? Throw the full comparison out there. “

I say it’s stupid to compare total stats (explains why you would use it) when one QB started all the games in that span and the other spent many as a backup. That’s why we’re looking at “per game” production. Let me simplify it for you…

If Trubisky and Carr had the same amount of attempts rushing and passing per game, and we assume everything else remained the same, here’s what the stats say you could expect from both per game:

Completion %:

Carr - 64.6%
Trubisky - 64.2%
 

Passing Yards + TDs:

Carr - 248 yards + 1.5 TDs

Trubisky - 235 yards + 1.4 TDs

Rushing Yards + TDs:

Trubisky - 17.5 yards + 0.2 TDs

Carr - 10.5 yards + 0.08 TDs

 

Turnovers:

Carr - 0.7 INTs + 0.56 Fumbles

Trubisky - 0.9 INTs + 0.42 Fumbles

 

To my original point, the difference in Carr and Trubisky from a production standpoint doesn’t seem to validate a ~$30mil difference in pay per year. I’m not arguing that Trubisky is the better QB. Only showing why I believe you could get 90% of Carr’s production for a fraction of the cost with Trubisky.

Edited March 1, 2023 by ECHornet