Carr Watch

[frankw]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He's led the league in comebacks and game winning drives for 8 years. That's an elite stat. 

Has he only been to the playoffs once because he didn't get it done as a QB, or could it be because the defense or coaches repeatedly failed him?

You might want to take a peek under the hood if you're going to go to bat for him and blame coaches or defense. He's played in 142 games in his career and through those he's amassed 179 combined interceptions and fumbles.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

You might want to take a peek under the hood if you're going to go to bat for him and blame coaches or defense. He's played in 142 games in his career and through those he's amassed 179 combined interceptions and fumbles.

I'm not saying he doesn't hold a share of the blame. I'm saying to look at him and say he's why the Raiders only went to the playoffs once in 9 years is a very narrow minded way of looking at things. You have to look at the overall picture, not just playoff appearances. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

14 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm not saying he doesn't hold a share of the blame. I'm saying to look at him and say he's why the Raiders only went to the playoffs once in 9 years is a very narrow minded way of looking at things. You have to look at the overall picture, not just playoff appearances. 

We should all be able to recognize that QBs play a different sort of game, taking less risks, when they have a defense that is capable of holding a lead.  The record is clear, Carr has had horrible defenses his entire NFL career.

Posters who are unwilling to concede this point to Carr aren't willing to have an honest discussion.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What exactly do you want people to say about Carr?

I've said numerous times he's a good QB. You making excues for a QB that needs help around him to win.

Lamar Jackson has had the least weapons of any QB in the NFL. He still gets that team to the playoffs every year.

Burrow took a bad franchise and turned them into SB contenders overnight.

Trevor Lawrence same thing.

See the difference in the QB's. Nobody makes excuses when you have that legit franchise QB. Doesn't matter the team around them they just win games.

Carr just isn't on that level which is why he needs a "defense" as you said.

Oy

Kid,there's not a QB in the league that doesn't need a solid team around him.

Superman is a myth.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What exactly do you want people to say about Carr?

 

I've said numerous times he's a good QB. You making excues for a QB that needs help around him to win.

 

Lamar Jackson has had the least weapons of any QB in the NFL. He still gets that team to the playoffs every year.

 

Burrow took a bad franchise and turned them into SB contenders overnight.

 

Trevor Lawrence same thing.

 

See the difference in the QB's. Nobody makes excuses when you have that legit franchise QB. Doesn't matter the team around them they just win games.

 

Carr just isn't on that level which is why he needs a "defense" as you said.

Woosh!  My comment about horrible defense seems to have gone right over your head.

The QBs on your list, ALL benefitted from having better defenses than what Carr has had for his entire career.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Is Carr a franchise QB yes or no?

He very well could be.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Woosh! The other side of the ball Burrow has one of the worst Olines in football. Lamar Jackson has a TE and that's literally it.

Why are they still winning more games than Carr?

Try and focus.  Defense.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Woosh!  My comment about horrible defense seems to have gone right over your head.

The QBs on your list, ALL benefitted from having better defenses than what Carr has had for his entire career.

He doesn't get it.

Told Willy the same. He isn't up to having an adult football discussion. He wants Lamar Jackson and he'll adjust every fact to fit his narrative.

You're not having a football debate. You're arguing with a child who wants a toy that you won't buy them. Any and all logic will be responded to with "BUT I WANT IT!!!'

Edited February 28, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

You seem to have a problem with Lamar Jackson.

I have been on record saying go get Stroud, but you keep bringing up Lamar Jackson.

Just wondering why you don't talk about the other QB's I want?

Because we all know what you really want, and you're not as clever as you think you are

It's part of the reason why you keep asking questions that people have already answered numerous times, clearly showing that either you're not paying attention or you're just don't understand what people are trying to tell you.

(my guess is option two)

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Woosh! The other side of the ball Burrow has one of the worst Olines in football. Lamar Jackson has a TE and that's literally it.

 

Why are they still winning more games than Carr?

The Bengals and Ravens were ranked 7th and 11th in total defense, respectively. The Raiders were ranked 28th. The Raiders have been near the bottom of the league in defensive rankings for most if not all of Carr's career.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Bengals and Ravens were ranked 7th and 11th in total defense, respectively. The Raiders were ranked 28th. The Raiders have been near the bottom of the league in defensive rankings for most if not all of Carr's career.

Yep. Bengals DC Lou Anarumo has been getting head coaching interviews.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

It's funny because you're the only person talking about Lamar Jackson in every other post I make. Like dude find a new slant.

Not sure what point you're trying to prove but good luck whatever you're trying to do. You can keep harassing me about Lamar everyday maybe some day you will get tired of it.

Keep trying, kid

[TheCasillas]

One of these days im going to click on a thread that the huddle deems “hot!” and it won’t open to a pointless argument between posters.

Edited February 28, 2023 by TheCasillas

[TLGPanthersFan]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He very well could be.

If he was a franchise QB I think he would have still been with the Raiders.