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Interesting twist regarding Lamar Jackson...

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7 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I can't even fathom turning down that amount of money. I could travel the world the rest of my life, my kids and grandkids would have enough to be taken care of, and I could still do a hell of a lot of good with the rest. 

If some of the speculation is true, he’s turning down 133, not 250, because he knows he won’t stay healthy enough to collect the full value. It’s actually smart of him, even if he takes a lower total value deal elsewhere, if he can get most or all of it guaranteed that’s more money he actually gets. I bet he’d sign today for 200 fully guaranteed even though that’s less than Watson. 

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2 hours ago, rayzor said:

except this team's coaching staff is being built to groom a rookie QB.

I mean that's great and I would be ecstatic with a rookie too. But a rookie is likely going to cost us about as much draft capital and is an unknown whereas lamar is a 26 yr old former MVP

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3 hours ago, Varking said:

I mostly agree. But a rookie QB flop sets us back just a season or 2. It’s picks and not much money. Lamar is going to cost picks plus guaranteed money. If he flops or stays injured he sets us back years.

And I do believe Stroud will be a franchise guy. 

There is zero possibility that Lamar flops. Come on, man. You can't credibly compare a former MVP who really hasn't even hit his prime with a college prospect that could very well flop.

As for injury, that's always a concern, but he really hasn't had anything too major. 

Stroud looks like starter material, but people are weighting the UGA game way too much IMO. I'll take a wait-and-see approach, and trust that our guys know how to evaluate.

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Let the haters hate.

 

The only thing in question with Lamar is his health. Dude is a MVP candidate every year. Nothing else you can really debate about him being a franchise QB.

Some people just don't want him no matter the price. They may as well fess up to it. The things they say about him and the players that they compare him to are a dead giveaway. 

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3 hours ago, top dawg said:

There is zero possibility that Lamar flops. Come on, man. You can't credibly compare a former MVP who really hasn't even hit his prime with a college prospect that could very well flop.

As for injury, that's always a concern, but he really hasn't had anything too major. 

Stroud looks like starter material, but people are weighting the UGA game way too much IMO. I'll take a wait-and-see approach, and trust that our guys know how to evaluate.

I was on the Stroud bandwagon before anyone here. Well before the UGA game. I don’t just stat watch. 
 

To be clear, I’d love Lamar. There’s just a limit to how much cost I’m comfortable with giving up. We still need a TE, still need a second WR, still have holes in our dline, etc. if you get Lamar you have to pay him and the only way you get him is to give up a ton of picks. 
 

I’ll back whatever the team does and hope for the best. I just think drafting a starting QB is easier to recover from if it goes sideways. 25 million vs 250 million for one player eats up the roster money quite a bit. If it were just money or just picks I’d do it in a heartbeat. When you have to give up tons of draft capital and tons of money it’s a harder pull to swallow. Lamar is a hell of a player. 

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50 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

My man you're not paying him your money.

 

QB's are going to get paid this is just how it works. You think Burrow/Allen taking paycuts?

 

This sport is violent these players deserve to make the most money they can. There is no guarantee they will have a long life after football. Get your money players!

I have no problem with players getting paid. My preference is pay the players who have produced in our system rather than offer up three first round draft picks and 250 million dollars only to find out he doesn’t mesh with what we have here. That’s why I prefer the rookie route or free agent route. If it was just a matter of paying Jackson, I’d do it. But you have to give the Ravens a bunch of picks plus still give him the contract and hope he’s more like the QB of 3-4 years ago than the more injury prone recent string. 

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33 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

The Panthers are not trading for Lamar folks. You might as well save your energy for arguing about something that actually may happen. 

Agreed. We are putting together a strong staff to develop a young QB. Jackson and Carr don’t need developing. We are drafting a QB and I wouldn’t be surprised if we are moving up to select one.

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16 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I haven't read it or seen it anywhere else across the numerous threads, but was listening to ESPN radio while taking the kids to school, and they shared that Peter King said the Ravens are very likely to use the non-exclusive franchise tag on Lamar, meaning it would only require the contract plus 2 first-round picks. That's also very different than the "windfall of picks" stuff we heard about previously.

Pretty smart move by the Ravens if true. Let Lamar shop his wares and see what he's really worth. If someone will pay Lamar's asking price then the Ravens get 2 1st rounds and a boatload of cap space. If not, they might actually get Lamar to agree to a long term deal.

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