Matt Moore is the future...

[Hairless Cat]

ten bucks says if Fox was around next season and decided to keep Moore as the starter instead of drafting a QB or signing a free-agent, he would be excoriated by every know-it-all in this thread.

people are (rightly) so tired of Delhomme that they're making Moore out to be something he's not.

neither quarterback is the future.

exactly

[mav1234]

lol, how the hell could you call that ball to Smith a bad throw... That was an amazing throw and a good adjustment. Jake can't get anywhere near that length with anywhere near that accuracy at this point in his career. EDIT: That was like a 60 yard toss - that kind of distance is something not many QBs can keep good accuracy with, and Moore was accurate enough that Smith easily adjusted to it. He slowed down, yes, but not like he's had to with some other balls he's been tossed this year...

He made some very nice throws, and he was able to stretch some plays by escaping the pocket.

Moore being 'the future'? Don't know. But I do know that none of the aforementioned QBs gave much hint as to just how good they would be in their first game as a starter in two years.

Give Moore some time. His stats were deceptive; this game was about the first two drives getting plays and the Panthers riding those drives. The coaches took the ball out of his hands on just about every 3rd down play of the 2nd half.

[WildBill559]

Is it so hard to admit that we don't know about Matt Moore's future yet? It's like people want to get their predictions in so they can claim they told us first. Nobody will care that you said it first, trust me. We have to wait and see either way.

[PhillyB]

lol, how the hell could you call that ball to Smith a bad throw... That was an amazing throw and a good adjustment.

it was a fuging horrible throw. if your reciever has to run ten feet to the left of his original route to catch the ball you threw, it was a horrible throw.

not that delhomme would've have done any better, but the point here is that we need a quarterback who can make these throws. we can't settle for a zero-touchdown 1-interception performance against an 1-10 team just because it's better than delhomme would've done.

moore is not the future.

delhomme is not the future.

someone else is.

[WildBill559]

we can't settle for a zero-touchdown 1-interception performance against an 1-10 team just because it's better than delhomme would've done.

That's spot on, except for assuming that anyone wants to settle with today's performance. Even the biggest Moore homer wants improvement.

[Sword]

it was a fuging horrible throw. if your reciever has to run ten feet to the left of his original route to catch the ball you threw, it was a horrible throw.

not that delhomme would've have done any better, but the point here is that we need a quarterback who can make these throws. we can't settle for a zero-touchdown 1-interception performance against an 1-10 team just because it's better than delhomme would've done.

moore is not the future.

delhomme is not the future.

someone else is.

i guess jeff george is..he can throw it over them mountains..

[mav1234]

The throw was not horrible. Please, go watch it again. I have, over and over. Smith did not need to go back for it at all, he just had to direct himself a couple yards into the middle of the field - while still running - and he only slowed a slight bit. The ball traveled 60 yards in the air and it still landed in Smith's hands with enough time for him to run down the field for a few extra yards. It was a good play. Could Manning, Brees, or Brady thrown it better? Perhaps. But that was our longest pass completion this year, and probably the longest throw we've seen in a LONG time.

I'm not saying Moore is the future. I'm just saying that going all batshit crazy about how he's "not the future" after one game is ridiculous, especially one game in which he only threw the ball 20 times and it was his first start in ages. Give the guy some time before you start clamoring. He's 3-1 as a starter, with average stats. We'll see how he does with a real test at NE next week.

[Zod]

Its also the happiest Smith has been all season.

[PhillyB]

The throw was not horrible. Please, go watch it again. I have, over and over. Smith did not need to go back for it at all, he just had to direct himself a couple yards into the middle of the field - while still running - and he only slowed a slight bit. The ball traveled 60 yards in the air and it still landed in Smith's hands with enough time for him to run down the field for a few extra yards. It was a good play. Could Manning, Brees, or Brady thrown it better? Perhaps. But that was our longest pass completion this year, and probably the longest throw we've seen in a LONG time.

I'm not saying Moore is the future. I'm just saying that going all batshit crazy about how he's "not the future" after one game is ridiculous, especially one game in which he only threw the ball 20 times and it was his first start in ages. Give the guy some time before you start clamoring. He's 3-1 as a starter, with average stats. We'll see how he does with a real test at NE next week.

i never said he had to go back for the ball - he had to cut to the left by a huge margin. if a good throw hits the reciever in stride in his route, then by definition that was a horrible throw, because it hit smith in stride because he completely changed his route. jake would get reamed if he made a throw like that, and moore should too.

that said, i agree that he should be given more time. i'm in favor of him playing through the end of the season, as we've got nothing else to lose. i hope i'm wrong (but i don't think i am.)

Its also the happiest Smith has been all season.

i'm willing to bet he was happier with his two touchdowns versus Atlanta.

[Zod]

I don't remember him as pumped up

[PhillyB]

I don't remember him as pumped up

he would've been more pumped up after TD number two against atlanta if he hadn't taken a knee to the ribs.

[BIGH2001]

i never said he had to go back for the ball - he had to cut to the left by a huge margin. if a good throw hits the reciever in stride in his route, then by definition that was a horrible throw, because it hit smith in stride because he completely changed his route. jake would get reamed if he made a throw like that, and moore should too.

that said, i agree that he should be given more time. i'm in favor of him playing through the end of the season, as we've got nothing else to lose. i hope i'm wrong (but i don't think i am.)

i'm willing to bet he was happier with his two touchdowns versus Atlanta.

LOL. Maybe you missed the Jets game last week when Delhomme underthrew Smith by 10 yards on a deep route when he was wide open. THAT is horrible throw. Moore's pass to Smith was not a horrible throw. It wasn't perfect because Smith had to slightly adjust his route (not 10 feet or whatever you say). Still, it hit him in stride and was far enough away from the safety that it was never in danger of being intercepted and could only be caught by Smith. I'd say that's a decent pass.

[mav1234]

i never said he had to go back for the ball - he had to cut to the left by a huge margin. if a good throw hits the reciever in stride in his route, then by definition that was a horrible throw, because it hit smith in stride because he completely changed his route. jake would get reamed if he made a throw like that, and moore should too.

that said, i agree that he should be given more time. i'm in favor of him playing through the end of the season, as we've got nothing else to lose. i hope i'm wrong (but i don't think i am.)

Part of what makes a quality receiver is the ability to react to a ball while it's in the air. Moore delivered the ball as close to where Smith was running as he could - and it was more accurate than what most could toss in this league I bet. Smith was able to adjust to the ball in mid air quite easily (and he didn't have to go ten feet to his left, more like 3) because it didn't require him to vastly change his route, stop, backpedal, anything. He barely slowed, and he caught it while still in stride enough to take it a few extra yards.

You and I just view the play differently. I see it as a nice deep pass that was put in a spot the receiver could easily adjust to. You see it as a terrible throw that was put some place that forced an adjustment. I guess the difference is that I don't consider the adjustment to be indicative of a terrible throw.

EDIT: About Smith, I think that he was fired up because he knows that Jake just can't hit that ball anymore - his accuracy is too far off. Moore is his best shot to get back into this offense in a major way and he knows it. Smith does care about his stats, but I think he wants to feel like he's making a difference. That play is really what put the game away.

[Darth Biscuit]

It was a much better throw than Jake can make now... is Moore the future though? I don't know... Fox needs to let him play to see...

Want to see a perfect throw, look at the one from Stafford to Johnson today for the TD against the Bengals... that was a perfect throw, and long too.