Go for Carr hard and save #9 pick?

[WOW!!]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, if I had the choice of two more quality non-QB starters or a legit franchise QB, it's a no brainer. I'm taking the franchise QB all day everyday.

 

Not even a question.. QB all day and twice on Sunday..

[45catfan]

17 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

Ikwonu, Horn, Brown, DJ, Burns, CMC.  Trade ups of multiple first round drafts picks will cost you the 2024 and 2025 versions of the this list.  No thank you.

You do you.

Only 1/4 of the League has a top 10 drafted starting QB still on their original draft team, but WOW thinks he has this thing figured out.  If it were only so simple...  Trade up for the QB, bingo--Super Bowl! 

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Only 1/4 of the League has a top 10 drafted starting QB still on their original draft team, but WOW thinks he has this thing figured out.  If it were only so simple...  Trade up for the QB, bingo--Super Bowl! 

Most of that 1/4 made the playoffs right??

KC - Mahomes

Buf - Allen

Cincy - Burrows

Lac - Herbert 

Jacksonville - Lawrence

New York - Danny dimes

3 of the 4 tops teams drafted there QB in the 1st round right??

 

[45catfan]

41 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Okay..

1. Saints may gives us a run but for how long?? Older team worst coaching situation not a lot of cap flexibility… So 1 maybe 2 years if we get our Young QB on a rookie deal  right?? More worried about Atlanta then New Orleans to be honest….

2. I know exactly how the draft works and if you have been studying this years like you think you have this isn’t a great year to have a lot of pick’s because top the bottom this isn’t a great draft for other positions.. Wr isn’t as good as last years Oline isn’t as good as last years their isn’t the depth at Dline, LB and Secondary that last year had.. To be honest there is only 3 blue chip players in this draft and 1 is a RB.. Other then QBs this draft isn’t as good as last years.. TE is good and RB is strong in this draft .. So we could trade the picks we acquired by trading CMC (to be in position to make this move by the way)and still get players…So yes I understand how a draft works…

3. Be patient is still part of the plan.. But you still have to follow the plan… They set themselves up to be in position to get their QB this year and have the necessary resources like (coaching Oline and weapons) to help develop him.. But you still have to get the the QB and be patient while he develops..

But reality remains this is going to be a better team just on coaching alone.. To think that you’re going to be in position to get a QB “next year” is not knowing this team at all thinking.. sorry jmo

Lacking blue chips in the first round is exactly why you trade BACK, get value and build draft capital.  Do you realize if we trade back we can get another first rounder to possibly move up next year?  Saying this QB draft is awesome because other positions aren't as strong as other years is laughable.  This QB class is mediocre at the top and weak after that. 

[heel31ok]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Only 1/4 of the League has a top 10 drafted starting QB still on their original draft team, but WOW thinks he has this thing figured out.  If it were only so simple...  Trade up for the QB, bingo--Super Bowl! 

Yes, the only thing missing in their simple equation is a a franchise qb in this draft.Everyone agrees with the premise.

[heel31ok]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Most of that 1/4 made the playoffs right??

KC - Mahomes

Buf - Allen

Cincy - Burrows

Lac - Herbert 

Jacksonville - Lawrence

New York - Danny dimes

3 of the 4 tops teams drafted there QB in the 1st round right??

 

Lol...none of these guys are availalble.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Most of that 1/4 made the playoffs right??

KC - Mahomes

Buf - Allen

Cincy - Burrows

Lac - Herbert 

Jacksonville - Lawrence

New York - Danny dimes

3 of the 4 tops teams drafted there QB in the 1st round right??

 

Geno Smith, Kurt Cousins, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, Jalen Hurts and--for cying out loud--Brock #255 Purdy.  How many of them were top 10 draft picks?

[Cdparr7]

6 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Most of that 1/4 made the playoffs right??

KC - Mahomes

Buf - Allen

Cincy - Burrows

Lac - Herbert 

Jacksonville - Lawrence

New York - Danny dimes

3 of the 4 tops teams drafted there QB in the 1st round right??

 

The other 6 playoff teams don’t have QBs in the top 10. You are going nowhere here.

Brady, Cousins, Prescott, Hurts, Geno, Purdy/Garoppolo

[Cdparr7]

Just now, Cdparr7 said:

The other 6 playoff teams don’t have QBs in the top 10. You are going nowhere here.

Brady, Cousins, Prescott, Hurts, Geno, Purdy/Garoppolo

Yeah forgot Lamar.

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Lacking blue chips in the first round is exactly why you trade BACK, get value and build draft capital.  Do you realize if we trade back we can get another first rounder to possibly move up next year?  Saying this QB draft is awesome because other positions aren't as strong as other years is laughable.  This QB class is mediocre at the top and weak after that. 

Or you trade up and get your guy..Especially when your in position and there is a big group of ppl willing to trade up for other positions.. Or other blue chip players..

again no matter what you think it’s clear Fitt set the team up to make this move.. He has said nothing else more clear then he want to draft and develop his pick at QB this year.. He built the Oline got the Qb development coaching staff and traded CMC for picks to be in this position… If it’s possible he is making this move..

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Geno Smith, Kurt Cousins, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, Jalen Hurts and--for cying out loud--Brock #255 Purdy.  How many of them were top 10 draft picks?

And nobody thought any of these teams had a chance…

But if you think 

1. Getting a 45 year old 

2. Mr irrelvent becoming a good Qb

3. A 4th rounder

4. A 1st round retread becomes a quality QB after 8 years

5. A 3rd round QB

Have a higher hit percentage then drafting your QB in the 1st round have at it..

Lmao!! 

[45catfan]

9 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Yeah forgot Lamar.

Tua is one hit from retiring and up until this year, Jones was on the chopping block.   Daniel was playing so lights out that the Giants forgot to pick up his 5th year option.  Ooops, how did they overlook that?

The 2020 draft class was and IS an outlier.  All three of the top 10 QBs made the playoffs.  Can't pretend that happens with any regularity.

Edited February 20, 2023 by 45catfan

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

The other 6 playoff teams don’t have QBs in the top 10. You are going nowhere here.

Brady, Cousins, Prescott, Hurts, Geno, Purdy/Garoppolo

And most of those teams have QB situation you don’t want right???

Or do you want a 46 year old Brady or High contracts Cousins, Prescott, ..  

If you want those Qb situations you can have that easily.. lmao

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

And nobody thought any of these teams had a chance…

But if you think 

1. Getting a 45 year old 

2. Mr irrelvent becoming a good Qb

3. A 4th rounder

4. A 1st round retread becomes a quality QB after 8 years

5. A 3rd round QB

Have a higher hit percentage then drafting your QB in the 1st round have at it..

Lmao!! 

Honestly before you skip over this what is the hit rate of these situations compared to just drafting your QB in the 1st round??? I would love to know..