Go for Carr hard and save #9 pick?

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, bythenbrs said:

So, you would have been a ‘no retreads’ with Delhomme?

Reality check.. Delhome wasn’t a retread.. He was a never was.. He wasn’t a starting QB for any NFL team giving a chance before Carolina.. He was the 3rd stringer on the Saints who they got from NFL Europe.. Retreads are guys who have been giving opportunities and teams have actually tried to build teams around them.. That wasn’t Delhome..

[top dawg]

8 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

And, at the same time you are suggesting SI, the LA Times, and several others don't know what they are talking about.  So, pick your poison.

Mark Davis is one of the least wealthy owners in the NFL, he is paying Gruden to sit on the sidelines, and would then be paying McDiptstick to join him.  Nobody knows for sure what these two contracts equate to, but Gruden was reported to be around $10M a year and McDiptstick was making $4M a year as the OC for the Pats and reported to be making "substantially more" to go to the Raiders. 

So, the guy who is somewhere between the 29th and 32nd richest owner (including the Packers who are technically owned by no one in particular), could be paying out $18-$20M a year for guys no longer coaching plus, say, another $5M to whoever would be. 

But, the problem is not simply overall wealth (which for Davis may look big to us, even though he is relatively low on the NFL totem pole), but cash flow.  How much of his non-liquid wealth is he willing to convert to liquid wealth in order to get rid of yet another coach he should not have hired in the first place?

It saved Davis money to let Carr go, while at the same time it would cost a bundle to let the HC go.  Even if he winds up paying the same money he would have paid Carr to others on the roster, it is still neutral.

Given McDipstick's history and antics as a HC, anybody suggesting having him in that position creates stability is fooling themselves. 

But, believe what and who you will.

All I can tell you is that Rappaport knows his stuff, and he hasn't given me any reason not to believe that he does not. 

A man who is broke (but estimated to be worth $500 mil) doesn't buy WNBA franchises or ultra-expensive mansions. Like Rapp Sheet said, it's about the belifef that McDaniels and the GM can right the ship. And, like it or not, part of righting the ship is dumping Carr.

Edited February 19, 2023 by top dawg

[45catfan]

15 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Reality check.. Delhome wasn’t a retread.. He was a never was.. He wasn’t a starting QB for any NFL team giving a chance before Carolina.. He was the 3rd stringer on the Saints who they got from NFL Europe.. Retreads are guys who have been giving opportunities and teams have actually tried to build teams around them.. That wasn’t Delhome..

So you good with Brissett or Minshew? 

[top dawg]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So you good with Brissett or Minshew? 

I'd rather have Minshew than Carr straight-up. Minshew is younger, arguably a better passer, and won't cost an arm and a leg. Similar results for a fraction of the price!

Edited February 19, 2023 by top dawg

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

So you good with Brissett or Minshew? 

As bridge QB’s while this staff develops Levi’s or Richardson?? Yes. in that situation I think you will need a bridge QB on a cheaper deal because I don’t think Levi’s or Richardson are day 1 ready and you will need a bridge QB.. If you get Stroud or Young I could see a older vet Like Flacco or Nick or Hoyer being on the roster for league minimum…

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So you good with Brissett or Minshew? 

Minshew as a bridge to Anthony Richardson? Sure. Minshew as the "answer"? Hell no.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

As bridge QB’s while this staff develops Levi’s or Richardson?? Yes. in that situation I think you will need a bridge QB on a cheaper deal because I don’t think Levi’s or Richardson are day 1 ready and you will need a bridge QB.. If you get Stroud or Young I could see a older vet Like Flacco or Nick or Hoyer being on the roster for league minimum…

[ForJimmy]

22 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Ok, we are just going to disagree on this.  I ain't changing your mind and you certainly aren't changing mine.  Again, the urgency of this fan base is shading the glasses of this QB class more and more rosy.  The Burrow comparison did elicit a chuckle, I must confess.

That was our QB coach’s comparison. I would imagine he is going to have some input…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10065261-cj-stroud-compared-to-joe-burrow-by-panthers-qb-coach-josh-mccown-before-nfl-draft.amp.html

[top dawg]

Just now, WOW!! said:

As bridge QB’s while this staff develops Levi’s or Richardson?? Yes. in that situation I think you will need a bridge QB on a cheaper deal because I don’t think Levi’s or Richardson are day 1 ready and you will need a bridge QB.. If you get Stroud or Young I could see a older vet Like Flacco or Nick or Hoyer being on the roster for league minimum…

Flacco needs to retire...for real. We have McCown, we don't need Flacco on the field or off.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Minshew as a bridge to Anthony Richardson? Sure. Minshew as the "answer"? Hell no.

Yes!!! 

[WOW!!]

Just now, top dawg said:

Flacco needs to retire...for real. We have McCown, we don't need Flacco on the field or off.

It doesn’t hurt having a vet who can teach while being a back up who can win 2 or 3 games if needed.. Mccown can still do his job but we still need a vet on the roster.. Depending on your rookie QB it will determine  what level vet you need.. 

Stroud or Young = equals older back up..

Levis = a  vet guy who can start the season and maybe 6 to 8 weeks..

Richardson and everybody else = A vet who can play the season if have to..

JMO

 

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That was our QB coach’s comparison. I would imagine he is going to have some input…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10065261-cj-stroud-compared-to-joe-burrow-by-panthers-qb-coach-josh-mccown-before-nfl-draft.amp.html

A bit of flattery there.  I get Josh is likes Stroud, but sometimes when giving praise the comparisons get a bit lofty.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

It doesn’t hurt having a vet who can teach while being a back up who can win 2 or 3 games if needed.. Mccown can still do his job but we still need a vet on the roster.. Depending on your rookie QB it will determine  what level vet you need.. 

Stroud or Young = equals older back up. If either falls to pick 5

Levis = See below

Richardson and everybody else = A vet who can play the season if have to..

JMO

 

Not too far off, but the bold is how I prefer it.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Not too far off, but the bold is how I prefer it.

Agree to disagree.. If you want them.. Go get them.. Don’t take any chance on not getting your guy.. We are set up to take that shot now..

Edited February 19, 2023 by WOW!!