Carr’s destination betting odds

[45catfan]

10 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

Good point 

Because complete QBs rarely hit free agency.

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

This is something people can’t wrap their head around.

Drake and Caleb are going 1 and 2.  If you don’t have those picks.  Your not getting them.  As Daniel Jeremiah said.  Even if you have pick 3.  Teams aren’t trading out to 3 off those guys.  So pretty much tough luck.

And outside those 2 guys.  Next years QB class is uncertain.  The next guy up isn’t even getting the hype of Bryce, Stroud, ARich, etc this time last year.  So we going to do this again talking is it worth it to move up from 20.  Trading 3 1sts for Spencer Rattler?

Chicago will trade down next yr just like this yr.

[ncfan]

11 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Chicago will trade down next yr just like this yr.

If they’re in that position again

they’re 10000% trading Fields and drafting Drake or Caleb.  Same way Jets did Darnold for Zach Wilson.

Edited February 15, 2023 by ncfan

[weyco2000]

8 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't believe the amount of people who actually want to sign him.

 

Like what happened to the franchise QB talk for the last 3 years...

 

Im seeing people say they rather have a 32 year old Derek Carr over a 26 year old former MVP candidate Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

 

 

He was the 2019 MVP… 

So…

He’s expecting a Deshaun Watson type deal, long term and guaranteed…

Ummm, HELL NO!!

 

[frankw]

1 hour ago, bythenbrs said:

Signing Carr and drafting a QB are not mutually exclusive.

Maybe not to you but reports from his now former team indicate he wants a full commitment. If there's any chance at all he would take offense to us still taking a QB at 9 he can fug off and fleece some other team.

[La Pantera]

5 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

He was the 2019 MVP… 

So…

He’s expecting a Deshaun Watson type deal, long term and guaranteed…

Ummm, HELL NO!!

 

Add in all that draft capital and the fact he's injury prone...

[scratched]

Signing Carr to a 2 yr deal and trading back to pickup Mayer at TE makes a lot of sense to me. 

[MHS831]

9 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't believe the amount of people who actually want to sign him.

 

Like what happened to the franchise QB talk for the last 3 years...

 

Im seeing people say they rather have a 32 year old Derek Carr over a 26 year old former MVP candidate Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

 

 

Apples and oranges.

I am not a fan of bringing in Carr, but you do not sell the farm for Jackson if you do not think he is the guy--even if he did get nominated for an award that one time.  Ask fans in Denver how that kind of thinking and $$$ is working out. 

What is Jackson going to cost the franchise?  A "windfall" of picks, or they will franchise him.  What is Carr going to cost?  Zilch.  Apples and Oranges.  You are suggesting that the Panthers form the best QB coaching staff in the NFL and bring in an establish vet with a playing style that nullifies their expertise?  I just do not see it.
 

[Jay Roosevelt]

15 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I feel like a lot of people pooing on Carr haven't watched him play.  I have since college and he is an elite QB.  The Raiders are a trainwreck organization.

"Elite" seems over the top. He's good; sometimes very good, but not consistent enough to be elite. But you're not wrong about the Raiders organization.

[Daddy_Uncle]

I'm not for or against signing him but it seems like we have the staff that can make him great

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Maybe not to you but reports from his now former team indicate he wants a full commitment. If there's any chance at all he would take offense to us still taking a QB at 9 he can fug off and fleece some other team.

You seem to know a lot about what Carr, his agent and the Panthers front office are thinking and discussing.  

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

If they’re in that position again

they’re 10000% trading Fields and drafting Drake or Caleb.  Same way Jets did Darnold for Zach Wilson.

And herein lies the risk for going all in to trade up for Young or Stroud.  The draft capital destroyed by the Jets, and they were still in QB hell afterwards.

[Monty83]

Getting Carr defeats the purpose of the staff we put together in my opinion. We invested in a staff that can build and develop a more polished QB quickly with a higher ceiling than Carr. One we can benefit from being on a rookie deal for 5 years. We built this staff for the Young/Stroud/Williams/Maye’s of the world. We just have to remain disciplined as we try to get one.

[ncfan]

6 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

And herein lies the risk for going all in to trade up for Young or Stroud.  The draft capital destroyed by the Jets, and they were still in QB hell afterwards.

At least they’re making swings

ask the Vikings fans how it feels to tie themselves  off to a Kirk Cousins mid level ceiling