Carr’s destination betting odds

[NanuqoftheNorth]

5 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

What needs? #2 DE? #2 CB? #3 WR? TE?

Which of those needs are holding us back more than not having a QB is?

Insert Carr here.

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

It wouldn’t but Carr will likely want to sign with a team that will guarantee he gets the starting job. Meaning I doubt he wants to sign with a team with a first round rookie right behind him. 

I think the only QB available would be AR and for many reasons he needs to sit. Carr has to be looking to rebuild his "street" credit among NFL teams, panthers can help him out on some one year type of deal. So what if he has a great season and other team signs him, AR should be oil'd up and ready. 

[Proudiddy]

32 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Be careful what you wish for.  The Saints have a good OL, solid defense, and some playmakers in Kamara and Olave.  Give them a good QB plus the draft pick they got back for Payton they could be dangerous in the NFC...

I feel like a lot of people pooing on Carr haven't watched him play.  I have since college and he is an elite QB.  The Raiders are a trainwreck organization.

[Basbear]

10 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Carr is Cousins level. Meaning he shrinks during big games and often commits terrible mistakes at the worst of times or just disappears from the game entirely. If that is what the team wants then so be it. At least we’ll make the playoffs but always get beat in the playoffs. Vikings of the NFC South. 

And thats better than the last 5 years of Matt Moore, Broken Cam, Darnold, baker, teddy, ghost of pickles etc....

And I agree hes right there with cousins, whom I wouldnt want to buy 40+ million for. Carr shouldnt come close to that, but this is the bat-poo NFL, some team team may........

Edited February 14, 2023 by Basbear

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I'm bracing myself for it.

Yeah at first I thought it was never a serious consideration even as I half heartedly typed it up as plan B. But you know plans change as the landscape changes. Things can quickly become plan A at the blink of an eye.  Things are afoot in Panthers land. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Jon Snow

[TJKJ23xx]

3 hours ago, travisura said:

If we go this route, our #9 pick needs to be the best WR on the board.

Zay Flowers looks the best imo but Johnston has the most potential if he can put it all together. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I feel like a lot of people pooing on Carr haven't watched him play.  I have since college and he is an elite QB.  The Raiders are a trainwreck organization.

He didn’t seem that elite this year. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by TLGPanthersFan

[TheCasillas]

7 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Carr is Cousins level. Meaning he shrinks during big games and often commits terrible mistakes at the worst of times or just disappears from the game entirely. If that is what the team wants then so be it. At least we’ll make the playoffs but always get beat in the playoffs. Vikings of the NFC South. 

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/derek_carr_somehow_owns_several_clutch_records/s1_16892_37619578#:~:text=The NFL on CBS Twitter,(23) in the NFL.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=CarrDe02

 

The data disagrees.

Edited February 14, 2023 by TheCasillas

[NanuqoftheNorth]

9 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Carr is Cousins level. Meaning he shrinks during big games and often commits terrible mistakes at the worst of times or just disappears from the game entirely. If that is what the team wants then so be it. At least we’ll make the playoffs but always get beat in the playoffs. Vikings of the NFC South. 

QBs play a lot better when their team has a strong defense (so they don't have to constantly take risks coming from behind).  Carr has had to deal with a Raiders defense that has ranked in the lower half of the league since he was drafted.  He played lights out in 2021 with numerous last minute come from behind victories.  Give Carr a decent defense and he is a Top Ten QB.

Edited February 14, 2023 by NanuqoftheNorth

[TheCasillas]

 

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I feel like a lot of people pooing on Carr haven't watched him play.  I have since college and he is an elite QB.  The Raiders are a trainwreck organization.

Whats the over/under of HCs in his 9 years? 20?!?!? How many OC and different system during??? I think at one point he had 3 different HCs within 8 months or something crazy.... IF not for the brown, raiders would be the punchline of alll the jokes. Now its a race between raiders, cards, and colts....

[TJKJ23xx]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I wouldn't hate it even though I'm admittedly very tired of the retread carousel. I do like Carr and I honestly think he's a borderline top 10 QB in this league.

#9 is likely too far down the board to get the QB we want so we're left with either pursuing a costly trade up or chasing Derek Carr. Might as well make a run at Carr first.

Or trade our entire future for Lamar. That's the route I definitely wouldn't go.

If we go Carr 3-4 years max and really give Corral a good long look the next two preseasons. I honestly want Stroud the more I see and read but the cost to get him might not be worth it. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

 

Give this guy a Top Ten defense and you'll have yourself a Top Ten QB.

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, TJKJ23xx said:

Zay Flowers looks the best imo but Johnston has the most potential if he can put it all together. 

Im in the group of "theres no true #1". I feel starting in the 2nd, WRs will be is high demand, but not much cream.....