Carr’s destination betting odds

[DJ feed me moore]

3 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Carr has already peaked in his career. A lot of posters on here make good points that he had arguably the best WR in Adams and they did put up stats, but they also didn't WIN! If Carr comes here, yes he would be the biggest upgrade we've had at QB so far but don't let that fool you. There is a reason why Kirk, Dak, Lamar, Carr haven't made deep playoff runs! They put up numbers and stats no doubt, but they are not winners! Why is Burrow/Mahomes/Allen consistently in the AFC championship picture year after year? Go for the home run, don't settle for Carr. 

Allen has never played in an AFCC. 

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

If someone wants to venture over to a Raiders forum I'd be curious to hear what the average take is on Carr and his time there now that he is officially gone. He has never lacked the talent. But he just had the lowest completion percentage since his rookie year. How much of it was McDaniels? The other layer is he will be 32 in March. So that's what a 5-6 year window maybe? Not every guy is going to be Brady and play well into their 40's. We should just be as realistic as possible about this knowing not only his circumstances but our own in our failures of pursuing other teams castoffs.

Raider fans have the worst extreme takes. Carr is either a golden god or whale shiit.

Edited February 14, 2023 by Basbear

[NanuqoftheNorth]

In a perfect world the Panthers would draft their next franchise QB and still have enough picks to surround him with talent.  That's not the world we live in.

At #9 the Panthers may have to give up a boatload of pics over several years to draft one of the better rookie QBs and hamstring themselves when it comes to surrounding that rookie with supporting talent.

Or, the Panthers can bring in a vet QB and use their picks to surround him with talent.

It's above my pay grade, but that's why Reich and Fitterer get paid the big bucks.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Carr is a lot better and more established than any QB we've had since Cam and easily would be among the top 3 the franchise has had.

Now let's not go that far. He's BEEN better than anyone here since Cam, yes. But if he's signed here let's see what he does HERE before we crown his ass mmkay.

[TLGPanthersFan]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Carr is a lot better and more established than any QB we've had since Cam and easily would be among the top 3 the franchise has had.

We will see. Not gonna disagree with you but also not gonna put a stamp on him being the top 3 QBs we’ve had. 
I will remain skeptical of him if he signs with us until proven wrong. 
If we sign him he will likely be here for 4 plus years. He isn’t gonna sign as a bridge QB. 
Hopefully the team can be built to survive his inevitable brain fart games he seems to have every season.  

[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

If someone wants to venture over to a Raiders forum I'd be curious to hear what the average take is on Carr and his time there now that he is officially gone. He has never lacked the talent. But he just had the lowest completion percentage since his rookie year. How much of it was McDaniels?

I'll tell you this much, it's as rare as hen's teeth to find Raiders fans that are enamored with McDaniels or Mark Davis.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

In a perfect world the Panthers would draft their next franchise QB and still have enough picks to surround him with talent.  That's not the world we live in.

At #9 the Panthers may have to give up a boatload of pics over several years to draft one of the better rookie QBs and hamstring themselves when it comes to surrounding that rookie with supporting talent.

Or, the Panthers can bring in a vet QB and use their picks to surround him with talent.

It's above my pay grade, but that's why Reich and Fitterer get paid the big bucks.

Well there's a small chance they manage to do both. There are some good qb prospects in this draft but they are just not hyped up like the 3 you only here about.  So I would not assume they cannot do both.

[stan786]

Carr would just show that Tepper and Reich have learned nothing from the last three years of failure. 

Our ceiling would be the divisional round of the playoff in our best year.

Thats enough for some but I’d prefer to push to be a championship contender. 

[Shocker]

3 hours ago, travisura said:

I think he's saying that the reason we're the favorite is because of how many QB reclamations Tepper has overseen so far, and assuming that we'll continue doing that with a new staff. That's why it's lazy.

So not putting the word Reich instead of Tepper is lazy.  Ok

[TheCasillas]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

The other layer is he will be 32 in March. So that's what a 5-6 year window maybe?

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

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You think he's going to play into his forties? For clarification purposes I had the misfortune along with the rest of you of watching a QB built like a greek god physically fall apart by 32. Different circumstances obviously but you can't make assumptions time is undefeated.

Edited February 14, 2023 by frankw

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Well there's a small chance they manage to do both. There are some good qb prospects in this draft but they are just not hyped up like the 3 you only here about.  So I would not assume they cannot do both.

It would be awesome if the Panthers could do both.  I'm somewhat concerned that the Panthers may make some significant personnel changes on defense (considering the preferred schemes of our new DC).  If that's the case, it may limit what the team can do on offense in this year's draft.

[travisura]

16 minutes ago, frankw said:

If someone wants to venture over to a Raiders forum I'd be curious to hear what the average take is on Carr and his time there now that he is officially gone. He has never lacked the talent. But he just had the lowest completion percentage since his rookie year. How much of it was McDaniels? The other layer is he will be 32 in March. So that's what a 5-6 year window maybe? Not every guy is going to be Brady and play well into their 40's. We should just be as realistic as possible about this knowing not only his circumstances but our own in our failures of pursuing other teams castoffs.

 

[rippadonn]

3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's not my point.

 

Point is Derek Carr would our QB. 

 

A 32 year old QB looking for a long term contract and stability and has 1 playoff appearance on his resume. You don't want to be in a situation for the next 3 years we are led by a aging QB with no ceiling. Carr is a JAG!

 

Why are we wasting time entertaining this? 

I know another guy around the same age, all healed up and still thinks he could dominate as he once did

Don't want Carr. Develop your own QBs like we did with this guy or if you want a 33 year old stop gap at least run it back with this guy. At least THAT would be entertaining for half the fan base instead of a slightly better Sam.

I'm not on the bring Cam back bandwagon THIS time not at all but Carr makes just as much sense as Cam right now 0.