Quarterbacks win championships

[CamWhoaaCam]

That's true but not on this forum.

 

You got people suggesting Derek Carr over a franchise MVP QB Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

Some people just don't know football.

 

Don't believe go check out the Derek Carr thread. People really want that to lead us to a SB. Like dude has 1 playoff appearance in his entire career and he's 32 wtf!

 

I love you guys but some of you are funny as sh!t!

[onmyown]

11 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

No way we dont get a QB now. Find it hard to believe Tepper watched this and said "let's go get Carr"

Lol

It’s funny you guys think Tepper is that bright. This franchise will continue to go downhill as long as he keeps a hands on approach.

Or we get lucky and find the next Burrow/Mahomes that will cover up an inept owner taking votes with his wife and customer service rep for the next HC with Rhule’s GM.

It sucks to hear but seriously wake up.

[Bear Hands]

It’s coaching and QBs. Best is when you’ve got the combo down, can happen independently as well.

I just don’t understand how people see successful teams and think, oh yes, let’s avoid the risk/reward with a R1 QB, roll back Darnold, Corral, and let’s add Tune/Duggan or some dude.

[rippadonn]

Without defense you don't get there in the first place.

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's true but not on this forum.

 

You got people suggesting Derek Carr over a franchise MVP QB Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

Some people just don't know football.

 

Don't believe go check out the Derek Carr thread. People really want that to lead us to a SB. Like dude has 1 playoff appearance in his entire career and he's 32 wtf!

 

I love you guys but some of you are funny as sh!t!

Derek Carr won't cost nearly what Lamar will and there's no guarantee Lamar gets you a SB win. If you want Lamar, prepare to give up at least 3 1sts and a couple 2nds, plus 50 to 60 a year fully guaranteed. It's difficult to build a team when you don't have picks or the cash to replenish players lost to retirement, injury or FA. 

I don't think Carr will get us to the SB, and Im not advocating for him, but to think what it's going to cost to acquire either isn't going to affect your ability to build a team is ludicrous. 

[Day1PanthersFan]

32 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Even if that isn’t called KC still kicks the field goal and takes the lead.  No way did that decide the game

If that isn't called , it's 4th down, and KC would have to kick the field goal with 1.48 left for the Eagles to get in field goal range or TD 

It absolutely decided the game 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

48 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Phantom holding calls win championships.

Cute and all ... but how did the Eagles get all their points?

[Day1PanthersFan]

29 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's true but not on this forum.

 

You got people suggesting Derek Carr over a franchise MVP QB Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

Some people just don't know football.

 

Don't believe go check out the Derek Carr thread. People really want that to lead us to a SB. Like dude has 1 playoff appearance in his entire career and he's 32 wtf!

 

I love you guys but some of you are funny as sh!t!

How many SBs has Lamar won ?

How may SBs has Lamar been in ?

If all you need is a QB, than why has Baltimore failed to even get to the superbowl? 

If Lamar is a guaranteed Star Super Extra Ultra Megastar QB, than why would Baltimore let him go , maybe because he is injury prone and doesn't justify his salary 

No one is expecting to win a superbowl with Carr, we just need some resemblance of stability at the top position,anything would be good after the Rhule circus, that we don't have to mortgage our future for, teams that are contending now didn't sign there QB,they didn't trade for them, they drafted them then put key pieces around them through FA

Some people who think that know football are clueless how much they don't know about football 

 

[Wolfcop]

Can’t throw all the drafts picks at Lamar AND have to pay that salary. The future is the rookie QB we draft, even if Carr (or pick your own vet QB) gets us through the next year or 2. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

But the huddle tells me we should use picks to get one. So what is it then?

[Stuart Smith]

58 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Phantom holding calls win championships.

Yes, and turnovers hurt too. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

36 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Derek Carr won't cost nearly what Lamar will and there's no guarantee Lamar gets you a SB win. If you want Lamar, prepare to give up at least 3 1sts and a couple 2nds, plus 50 to 60 a year fully guaranteed. It's difficult to build a team when you don't have picks or the cash to replenish players lost to retirement, injury or FA. 

I don't think Carr will get us to the SB, and Im not advocating for him, but to think what it's going to cost to acquire either isn't going to affect your ability to build a team is ludicrous. 

Yes and im trading all that fpr Lamar Jackson. He's proven in this league. The NFC is not as tough as the AFC.

 

Lamar would already have a better supporting cast then he had in Baltimore.

 

Derek Carr on the other hand is a aging QB with no real success winning games on a consistent level. He had a top 5 TE and the best WR in football and still couldn't make noise. Could you imagine Lamar with those weapons?

 

It's not even a debate Lamar is a MVP candidate and Carr is just another QB.

 

The goal is to get a franchise QB not recycle another aging vet QB.

[CamWhoaaCam]

14 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

How many SBs has Lamar won ?

How may SBs has Lamar been in ?

If all you need is a QB, than why has Baltimore failed to even get to the superbowl? 

If Lamar is a guaranteed Star Super Extra Ultra Megastar QB, than why would Baltimore let him go , maybe because he is injury prone and doesn't justify his salary 

No one is expecting to win a superbowl with Carr, we just need some resemblance of stability at the top position,anything would be good after the Rhule circus, that we don't have to mortgage our future for, teams that are contending now didn't sign there QB,they didn't trade for them, they drafted them then put key pieces around them through FA

Some people who think that know football are clueless how much they don't know about football 

 

Lamar hasn't even been in the league 5 years.

 

Burrow/Allen/Herbert all have 0 SB's.

 

But they all have shown they can be MVP candidates and lead a team to the playoffs consistently. Lamar is proven if you don't get that than im sorry there is no need to debate you.

 

Derek Carr has stability for a franchise?

 

My man Carr has made the playoffs once in his entire career. His days of being a franchise QB are over. He's 32 and declining. No thanks but I want no part of Derek freaking Carr.

 

It's sad this fanbase keeps wanting these mediocre QB's. Then wonder why we are looking for a QB every year.

 

Lamar is a sure thing. His resume speaks for itself. Even without weapons he carries that offense. 

Lamar>Carr there is nothing to debate.

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yes and im trading all that fpr Lamar Jackson. He's proven in this league. The NFC is not as tough as the AFC.

 

Lamar would already have a better supporting cast then he had in Baltimore.

 

Derek Carr on the other hand is a aging QB with no real success winning games on a consistent level. He had a top 5 TE and the best WR in football and still couldn't make noise. Could you imagine Lamar with those weapons?

 

It's not even a debate Lamar is a MVP candidate and Carr is just another QB.

 

The goal is to get a franchise QB not recycle another aging vet QB.

The goal isn't just to get a franchise QB. The goal is to build a team around a franchise QB. If you cripple your ability to do that, then you likely waste your franchise QB. That's why you rarely see teams trade for franchise QBs. They can't afford the salary and the picks. You can do one or the other, not both.