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Ellis Williams. How to turn the Panthers around in one year


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9 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Really starting to love Anthony Richardson.   He could be the guy. Role with Corral as 1 and Richardson as 2. 

He seems like a less accurate Justin Fields which is scary. 
 

Only way I’m for it is if we start him Week 1 and stick with him if it goes south. Tank for Maye

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1 hour ago, Catsfan69 said:

The author lost me at Purdy's size being the cause of his injury.

When a QB has his shoulder and elbow torqued to throw and gets hit while in or starting his motion things just tear.

It's just the way things happen.

Yeah, Cam's injuries weren't caused by lack of size. It was just two freak occurrences. Drew Brees didn't have his career ended by injury. Russell Wilson hasn't either. 

I get that the risk FEELS higher for little guys but I don't think the evidence backs up that assumption. A quality QB should be adept at feeling pressure and getting rid of the ball to limit hits. That goes for scrambling or running QB's too.

You don't want to draft a guy or sign a guy with a bad injury history, obviously. That is a bigger red flag than size. Wear and tear is very real. You also want to make sure you strive to protect the QB as much as possible. Which we didn't do for Cam and he got injured. But Kansas City invested a lot of resources into protecting Mahomes and he still ended up with a high ankle sprain this postseason.

A lot of this is just pure, dumb luck.

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16 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

He seems like a less accurate Justin Fields which is scary. 
 

Only way I’m for it is if we start him Week 1 and stick with him if it goes south. Tank for Maye

He is one of the least accurate first round picks in recent memory. 54.7% completion percentage is not something you see for an elite prospect very often. The only one I can think of that low recently was Kyle Boller(much lower, actually). 

Josh Allen was 56.2% but that is another "planning on an outlier" scenario. It is historically rare for QB's to have better accuracy in the NFL than they did in college. 

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1 hour ago, mccjeff said:

The question is if Baker was 19’ tall would he still be getting passes batted down on every other attempt.

Height and batted balls definitely dont have much correlation.  I believe Josh Allen led the league in batted balls this season.  How the oline blocks, play calling, and qb finding passing lanes makes much more difference than height.  Regardless of all that the answer to your question is yes.

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54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, Cam's injuries weren't caused by lack of size. It was just two freak occurrences. Drew Brees didn't have his career ended by injury. Russell Wilson hasn't either. 

I get that the risk FEELS higher for little guys but I don't think the evidence backs up that assumption. A quality QB should be adept at feeling pressure and getting rid of the ball to limit hits. That goes for scrambling or running QB's too.

You don't want to draft a guy or sign a guy with a bad injury history, obviously. That is a bigger red flag than size. Wear and tear is very real. You also want to make sure you strive to protect the QB as much as possible. Which we didn't do for Cam and he got injured. But Kansas City invested a lot of resources into protecting Mahomes and he still ended up with a high ankle sprain this postseason.

A lot of this is just pure, dumb luck.

Yea some it is unfair luck, just odds are against the smaller players. Tua is one more shot away form needing to retire. I dont think there is another smitty out there.....those small tough players are rare. I hate to admit, but both wilson and brees were driven. Drew came back form a career ender, he made it happen with hard work. Prime Wilson was covered in olive oil and he never took the full force on most of his hits. Thats a skill and he was elite at it, sorta like bradys footwork in the pocket.......elite and prevents hits. 

The deal is the NFL has been cracking on dirty hits and any hitting on QB, so theres more hope for the smaller QBs now. Im too set in my ways, still pass on young......

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2 hours ago, mccjeff said:

The question is if Baker was 19’ tall would he still be getting passes batted down on every other attempt.

Joking aside, if you've watched McKee play he can barely move because he's so tall. Every off-platform throw for him is a struggle. 

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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

This is a project that needs a QB, stud TE, and maybe a few holes filled on Defense. 

Get the QB and the TE, and I promise you, the offense is good enough to compete.  Add a LB, Edge, and DB or two, and the defense is top 10.

Six players will do it.  Yes, more would be better, before some chime in with statements of the obvious.  More better players is more better.  We all get that concept.

 

We need a WR.

Moore is very good, but he's not "consistently beat double coverage" good - hell sometimes he can't even beat single coverage.

Get a good #1 / #2 alongside him, push Marshall to #3 and suddenly you open up a whole raft of options offensively. 

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4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

This is a project that needs a QB, stud TE, and maybe a few holes filled on Defense. 

Get the QB and the TE, and I promise you, the offense is good enough to compete.  Add a LB, Edge, and DB or two, and the defense is top 10.

Six players will do it.  Yes, more would be better, before some chime in with statements of the obvious.  More better players is more better.  We all get that concept.

 

Sounds about right…if we go rookie QB I hope they go get a vet TE. I’ve never looked at the stats for it but it seems like rookie TEs are slower to make an impact and I remember how shockey and Olsen helped rookie Cam. Not one of the higher cost FA positions either 

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5 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If he falls to 9 then he needs to keep falling, we dont need to be the team that saves him.   And I seriously cannot imagine a coach like Reich wanting to hitch his wagon to that to start his tenure off. 


I agree but I think they’ll take him because they feel like that have to.

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