Sell me Justin Fields vs CJ Stroud

[ncfan]

2 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

The touch Stroud has on his passes and the anticipation he is able to throw his passes with sets him far apart from Fields as a passer.  I don't think there is a better QB in this draft that can throw the intermediate passes, particularly the out and corner routes, than Stroud. I still remember that Utah bowl game last year and the throws he made in that game were very impressive. Yes, his WRs have been elite the past 2 years, but he was still throwing dimes to his receivers and releasing the ball right as his receivers were making their cuts.

People forget that.

 

this time last year coming off that game was he was the next big thing and would’ve been a top 3 pick in Last years draft if eligible 

[CamWhoaaCam]

Give me Fields over Stroud if I had to choose.

 

Fields has already shown signs of promise even surrounded by a bad roster. You can't tell me he wouldn't be a better passer behind this Oline with a true #1 WR like DJ.

 

Fields will be special once he gets a Oline. Kind of hard to throw when you're running for your life every other play.

[weyco2000]

47 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Remind me, did Fields only play half the season in 2020 or something? Because what I’m seeing is Stroud throwing for A LOT more yards, TDs, with higher avg, rating, similar completion %, and way less sacks. I must be missing something for somebody to call their passing “pretty close”.

Covid 

[CamWhoaaCam]

31 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

The value of neither will be near the price we would have to pay.

Let's move on.

Yeah lets just wait next year when we have the #9 pick again because we signed some vet QB like Jimmy G or Carr who takes us nowhere but mediocrity.

 

What is with this fanbase and waiting for QB's?

 

At some point you have to trade up to get your franchise QB. Waiting solves nothing. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

13 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So you would spend a top 10 pick on one of these QBs that you firmly believe aren't franchise QBs? 

Yes, mostly to ensure that the server on this forum didn't meltdown if we passed on a QB at #9.  

Seriously, I mostly want AR15.  I think with Reich as HC he could do more with this guy than any of the others. Levis would probably be my 2nd choice. 

Just so I don't dance around your question.  As a GM and I have a new head coach and he wanted one of these QBs.  I'd go get him.  Terribly against giving too many assets to get him but if Reich was insistent.  I would use a top 10 pick for a QB. 

On a side note, I wish I could see into Reich's head.  I wonder what he thinks about Corral.  I know many of you hate him, mostly because he's just a 3rd round pick.  But we're talking about a HC that has done wonders with his QBs in the past.  Could Reich see a lot of potential in Corral?  Corral has some interesting tools and could be a solution that's "Already on the Roster".

 

[travisura]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah lets just wait next year when we have the #9 pick again because we signed some vet QB like Jimmy G or Carr who takes us nowhere but mediocrity.

 

What is with this fanbase and waiting for QB's?

 

At some point you have to trade up to get your franchise QB. Waiting solves nothing. 

We were told to wait for this year when we could go grab Young or Stroud. Anyone thinking that if we don't take a QB in the first round this year, that next year is gonna be any different are fooling themselves. We'll pick 8-12 and we will be told that it's too costly to trade up for Williams or Maye, and they're not sure prospects anyway, and that we need to wait 'til next year when the next "sure fire" QBs are in the draft, only to once again be told that actually those guys aren't good enough to warrant the draft capital.

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, travisura said:

We were told to wait for this year when we could go grab Young or Stroud. Anyone thinking that if we don't take a QB in the first round this year, that next year is gonna be any different are fooling themselves. We'll pick 8-12 and we will be told that it's too costly to trade up for Williams or Maye, and they're not sure prospects anyway, and that we need to wait 'til next year when the next "sure fire" QBs are in the draft, only to once again be told that actually those guys aren't good enough to warrant the draft capital.

I agree 100%

 

This roster is simply too good to get a top 5 pick. It makes no sense to keep throwing away years waiting for a QB to drop to us.

 

I will be shocked if don't end up with one of those 4 QB's. Im tired of waiting. It's now or never.

[WUnderhill]

19 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Covid 

Oh yeah forgot about that mess.

[Khyber53]

16 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah lets just wait next year when we have the #9 pick again because we signed some vet QB like Jimmy G or Carr who takes us nowhere but mediocrity.

 

What is with this fanbase and waiting for QB's?

 

At some point you have to trade up to get your franchise QB. Waiting solves nothing. 

Let's see how it plays out. I'm betting that the experienced QB/HC guy and the GM of the team decide differently than the trade up for a risky college QB method of drafting.

 

[heel31ok]

16 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah lets just wait next year when we have the #9 pick again because we signed some vet QB like Jimmy G or Carr who takes us nowhere but mediocrity.

 

What is with this fanbase and waiting for QB's?

 

At some point you have to trade up to get your franchise QB. Waiting solves nothing. 

Has to one to tradeb up for.The air is rife wth desperation

[PootieNunu]

Stroud can actually pass the ball, Fields is a glorified RB. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Let's see how it plays out. I'm betting that the experienced QB/HC guy and the GM of the team decide differently than the trade up for a risky college QB method of drafting.

 

That's how you get fired.

Are you suggesting a long term plan?

 

[Stuart Smith]

2 hours ago, Cam's New Arm said:

Are these not the same dudes?

Their passing is pretty close and Fields wins the rushing game and they are literally the same size.

 

 

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[CamWhoaaCam]

2 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Stroud can actually pass the ball, Fields is a glorified RB. 

Fields passed well in college when he actually had time to throw!

Chicago has the worst roster in football. They traded away the best LB in football. That franchise is awful.

 

Fields behind a decent Oline will throw dimes. You are what your roster says you are.