NFC South Division being weak next year could influence trading up for a QB this year?

[Bear Hands]

14 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Not to mention after this season we have a boatload of Cap room.. So get the QB Now while we have a solid Oline and some weapons.. Let’s see how good coaching and developing works and by next season we are a player to fill some holes thru FA..

Yeah, my only added want within this type of move is adding weapons on rookie deals that fit well and can grow with our QB.  If you find the guys that fit, you find a way to get them. 

This draft has some really promising mid rounders at WR, TE, & RB.  

Land a Stroud, you can still get some variation of a WR/TE/RB combo pack.  There's a lot to like after the consensus R1 ranks...some ideas being...

WR: Josh Downs, Rashee Rice, Jonathan Mingo, Malik Knowles, Moreno-Cropper

TE: Luke Musgrave, Dalton Kincaid, Luke Schoonmaker

RB: Zach Charbonnet, Sean Tucker, Tyjae Spears, Chase Brown, Roschon Johnson, Abanikanda

Edited January 28, 2023 by Bear Hands

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Yeah, my only added want within this type of move is adding weapons on rookie deals that fit well and can grow with our QB.  If you find the guys that fit, you find a way to get them. 

This draft has some really promising mid rounders at WR, TE, & RB.  

Land a Stroud, you can still get some variation of a WR/TE/RB combo pack.  There's a lot to like after the consensus R1 ranks...some ideas being...

WR: Josh Downs, Rashee Rice, Jonathan Mingo, Malik Knowles, Moreno-Cropper

TE: Luke Musgrave, Dalton Kincaid, Luke Schoonmaker

RB: Zach Charbonnet, Sean Tucker, Tyjae Spears, Chase Brown, Roschon Johnson, Abanikanda

We don’t have to do all this in 1 off-season.. If we get the QB and the coach right this offseason I’m good..

[Bear Hands]

Just now, WOW!! said:

We don’t have to do all this in 1 off-season.. If we get the QB and the coach right this offseason I’m good..

True, it'd still be cool to grab one or two to grow with the young gun from day 1.  Could help create an entirely new and tight locker room. I hear ya though.

I'll tell you one thing, it's sure as hell refreshing to be past the HC hire and look towards the build out now.  

[Jackie Lee]

 Colts at 4 not gonna trade so Reich can get a QB, Seahawks might want a QB at 5, As well as Lions at 6.  Cardinals at 3 would be lots of capital but I bet they'd be willing to trade back

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The NFC South is prime for a team to emerge to dominate for the foreseeable future. Whoever solves their long-term QB issue first is going to have a massive leg up.

 

I didnt watch one throw from Ridder in atl, does anyone know how he actually looked? 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

 Colts at 4 not gonna trade so Reich can get a QB, Seahawks might want a QB at 5, As well as Lions at 6.  Cardinals at 3 would be lots of capital but I bet they'd be willing to trade back

 

If thats all it takes to get stroud then so be it

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I didnt watch one throw from Ridder in atl, does anyone know how he actually looked? 

Like QB is definitely high on their wish list but not so high that they'll massively reach out of sheer desperation 

[WOW!!]

22 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 Colts at 4 not gonna trade so Reich can get a QB, Seahawks might want a QB at 5, As well as Lions at 6.  Cardinals at 3 would be lots of capital but I bet they'd be willing to trade back

 

Do whatever it takes.. Stop bargain shopping and go get the QB..

[Peon Awesome]

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Maybe and Caleb are not promised either.

And every year it seems people suggest waiting for the next class of QB's they will be better.

 

I remember because people were saying wait for Bryce and Stroud last year.

 

We can't keep waiting nothing is promised. Go get our guy now. We deal with the results later.

I have no problem with trying for a rookie qb this year. Hell, I'll be absolutely ecstatic if we get Stroud. My only worry is having to give up a future 1st (or 2 1sts) for him or Bryce Young. If it doesn't work out, we're set back for years. If we give up our 2 2nds and #9 for Stroud, or we stay at 9 and take Richardson, or even something like package 9 plus Brian Burns for Stroud/Young and suck completely in any of those scenarios, at least we have our 1st in 2024 to try again. 

Edited January 28, 2023 by Peon Awesome

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, Peon Awesome said:

I have no problem with trying for a rookie qb this year. Hell, I'll be absolutely ecstatic if we get Stroud. My only worry is having to give up a future 1st (or 2 1sts) for him or Bryce Young. If it doesn't work out, we're set back for years. If we give up our 2 2nds and #9 for Stroud, or we stay at 9 and take Richardson, or even something like package 9 plus Brian Burns for Stroud/Young and suck completely in any of those scenarios, at least we have our 1st in 2024 to try again. 

Chance you take but sooner or later you have to do it.. Might as well do it now when the infrastructure to help a young QB succeed is in place and ready to go..

[Bear Hands]

6 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If thats all it takes to get stroud then so be it

Not to mention Wentz didn't entirely work out, yet they've since won a SB and are one of the final 4 this year.  Comes to show all of the supposed capital they gave up didn't even have THAT big of an impact in their build in the greater scheme of things. If you think you found a QB, go get the dude.   

[AggieLean]

The time is now.

If you feel one of Young, Stroud, or Levis is that guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

We can not keep playing around, especially with the rest of the South in need of QBs as well. We can take control of this division for the long haul if we get our guy now.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

The time is now.

If you feel one of Young, Stroud, or Levis is that guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

We can not keep playing around, especially with the rest of the South in need of QBs as well. We can take control of this division for the long haul if we get our guy now.

If they get the right guy. Get the wrong guy and you have to trade players to get that draft capital back to try again. Had they traded Burns they would have had plenty of ammo to trade for a qb this year and still have a first next year. And you have an extra first in 2025 to take another shot next year should you miss this year. But we want to keep Burns instead of prioritizing getting a qb. Man don't get me started.

[CPF4LIFE]

14 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

If they get the right guy. Get the wrong guy and you have to trade players to get that draft capital back to try again. Had they traded Burns they would have had plenty of ammo to trade for a qb this year and still have a first next year. And you have an extra first in 2025 to take another shot next year should you miss this year. But we want to keep Burns instead of prioritizing getting a qb. Man don't get me started.

Technically every player coming into the league is an unknown, you have no clue what they are going to be. If that player IS an absolute sure thing NOBODY is gonna trade with you period because why would they pass that guy up? QB, LT, DE are the most premium positions in the league so there is always an hesitation about making changes especially if you have nothing far as a replacement. Moving Burns would be a serious blow to our pass rush as there is nobody to pick up his production on a good not great defense. Not saying i would have had a real issue if they moved him, i just understand why they didnt and not for picks on down the road where you have no idea where they will be positioned at.