Do you trust Reich to find us (and develop) a franchise QB?

[Aussie Tank]

We’re gonna move up to 5 for the 3rd QB off the board my guess is it will be Stroud or we’re gonna do a package deal for Carr and Renfro 

[Mike2.0]

It will be interesting to see what direction we go in. Reich has faced quite a bit of adversity as a head coach. His last GM brought him stop gaps and reclamation projects.

So will we go for a veteran like Carr or Garoppolo and develop Corral or one of this year’s class behind a veteran starter? Or will we go for a rookie and throw them straight in?

As things stand I’m not entirely convinced by this crop of quarterbacks in the draft. I’m not against us drafting one, but I’d probably hedge my bet on a veteran and developing Corral.

[Jon Snow]

13 minutes ago, Mike2.0 said:

It will be interesting to see what direction we go in. Reich has faced quite a bit of adversity as a head coach. His last GM brought him stop gaps and reclamation projects.

So will we go for a veteran like Carr or Garoppolo and develop Corral or one of this year’s class behind a veteran starter? Or will we go for a rookie and throw them straight in?

As things stand I’m not entirely convinced by this crop of quarterbacks in the draft. I’m not against us drafting one, but I’d probably hedge my bet on a veteran and developing Corral.

Carr or Garoppolo are not coming here to be backups. You do realize the any vet signed their sole purpose is to be a backup to whatever rookie they draft. They will only start until Frank thinks the rookie is ready to start. You need to be thinking about Derek Anderson level qb's that are available. 

[Mike2.0]

38 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Carr or Garoppolo are not coming here to be backups. You do realize the any vet signed their sole purpose is to be a backup to whatever rookie they draft. They will only start until Frank thinks the rookie is ready to start. You need to be thinking about Derek Anderson level qb's that are available. 

Carr and Garoppolo will be 32 or turn 32 during the 2023 season. No team is buying them for ten years. They could play into their forties but it’s more likely they will be unquestioned starters into their mid-30s. 

We could offer them a good contract and make them our starter for the next few seasons (at least). We would have a young quarterback being coached up behind them to be a potential successor, cheaper backup, or potential trade chip. 

If we are throwing a rookie in there, then obviously we’d be looking for a different kind of veteran quarterback. Perhaps that wasn’t clear in my original post.

[bythenbrs]

On 1/26/2023 at 5:31 PM, Chaos said:

Real question - why was Reich fired in Indy?

Irsay.  That is all the explanation you need.

[Jon Snow]

32 minutes ago, Mike2.0 said:

Carr and Garoppolo will be 32 or turn 32 during the 2023 season. No team is buying them for ten years. They could play into their forties but it’s more likely they will be unquestioned starters into their mid-30s. 

We could offer them a good contract and make them our starter for the next few seasons (at least). We would have a young quarterback being coached up behind them to be a potential successor, cheaper backup, or potential trade chip. 

If we are throwing a rookie in there, then obviously we’d be looking for a different kind of veteran quarterback. Perhaps that wasn’t clear in my original post.

Tepper and Fitterer are not going to go with another retread vet. It will be a rookie starting as soon as Frank can get him ready. Anyone signed will be a backup period. No bridge for a season or two but a backup that has a 4 or 5 game shelf life. 

Edited January 28, 2023 by Jon Snow

[KatsAzz]

18 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Fitterer will swing for the fences again and bring in some QBs. It actually won't be up to Reich to develop the qb as it will the OC and quarterback coaches who do the actually work. Those hires will be as or more important to the offense then Reich.

While the QB coach and OC will handle most of the work in developing the QB, i feel sure that Reich will have some valuable input along those lines, since keeping his job will have a lot to do with the success of the QB.

[mrcompletely11]

4 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Aqeel Glass - Senior Advisor/Advisor/OC/QB coach guy [Tom Moore/Clyde Christensen/Jim Caldwell/John Defilippo]; been working with him since last year and have him going into the USFL.

 

lolololololololol

Please dude dont ever stop being you

[mrcompletely11]

7 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Year 3 of there career.. Yes my opinion..

They won’t make it to 9.. To many teams infront of us need Qb and know they are talented.. We will definitely have to jump in front of either Houston or Indy to make sure we will get 1 of them..

This isn’t last years draft there will be more than 1 Qb drafted in the 1st round and at least 3 will be top 10 picks..

Hypothetical but if Young measures at 5'10 190ish and doesnt work out at the combine he is going to drop like a rock IMO

[panthers55]

6 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

While the QB coach and OC will handle most of the work in developing the QB, i feel sure that Reich will have some valuable input along those lines, since keeping his job will have a lot to do with the success of the QB.

Yeah he sets the tone and likely know what he wants to do but the idea that we will be great on offense because Reich knows offense may not be true if we dont have good coaches on the offensive side. He needs to get the OC right or the advantage of having Reich might be somewhat muted.

[WOW!!]

5 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

I'm sure Reich will be democratic about it.

Matt Corral - Tepper guy; wants him developed

Jacob Eason - Reich guy; been developing him for 2 years

Davis Cheek - Fitterer/Morgan guy; keep bringing him back and want him developed

Aqeel Glass - Senior Advisor/Advisor/OC/QB coach guy [Tom Moore/Clyde Christensen/Jim Caldwell/John Defilippo]; been working with him since last year and have him going into the USFL.

Nick Foles - a veteran fall back that Reich would like to have on his roster if the Colts release him.

My guess is there will be no QB drafted with this class, and Reich will focus on developing his QBs. He will want to focus more on drafting offensive weapons and defensive players. Likely 2 TEs and 2 LBs in the draft. Reich and Ballard saw more value in waiting for a UDFA in the draft last year and this class is weaker than last years.

Would that be disappointing?

Hell yes and dumb..

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hypothetical but if Young measures at 5'10 190ish and doesnt work out at the combine he is going to drop like a rock IMO

I still think he won’t make it to 9..

Reality he is a better prospect then Kyler Murray..

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Tepper and Fitterer are not going to go with another retread vet. It will be a rookie starting as soon as Frank can get him ready. Anyone signed will be a backup period. No bridge for a season or two but a backup that has a 4 or 5 game shelf life. 

The writing was on the wall since the Cmac trade.. I don’t understand how ppl don’t see this..

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, WOW!! said:

I still think he won’t make it to 9..

Reality he is a better prospect then Kyler Murray..

Kyler has been hurt in every season he has played effectively tanking the cardinals.   Now of course you can argue if its his size that is getting him injured but its still a fact he has missed and played portions of the season hurt.  The playoff game last year where he refused to leave the pocket allowed the rams to totally dominate him.  His game is moving around and if he is scared to do that then he is worthless.  does this apply to Young, I dont know but I promise you teams in the nfl are comparing the situations