Coaching Interview Thread IV: A New Hope

[Brooklyn 3.0]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

“The owner”

So in nine seasons as a playcaller, his teams were in the top 10 four out of nine times. 4-5. I know top 10 is good and all ... but 4-5 could not be a more classic Panthers type number.

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's actually been revealed since the firing that Irsay dumped Reich specifically so that he could hire Saturday.

Irsay went so far as to say that if Saturday hadn't been available, he wouldn't have fired Reich.

Via a direct quote from Irsay? Or, another one of your Tweets?

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Depends on who you ask...

Albert Breer said he was still in the mix but Ian Rapoport reported he's out and has gone home.

Lay off the Twitter, Scot.

Edited January 26, 2023 by Brooklyn 3.0

[Mage]

1 minute ago, NJPanthers12 said:

i truly underestimated how damn stupid david tepper truly is. i went from thinking there was no shot wilks could be the choice, to now ill be pretty surprised if he isnt. this is going to be a dark day in panthers history. 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

2 minutes ago, NJPanthers12 said:

i truly underestimated how damn stupid david tepper truly is. i went from thinking there was no shot wilks could be the choice, to now ill be pretty surprised if he isnt. this is going to be a dark day in panthers history. we are going begging for the george seifert days after we get done with the wilks era, which i will guarantee will not last more than 3 years. 

my new prediction is that the panthers will not be in charlotte in 15 years. tepper has zero respect for the fans. zero connection to the city. and we are about to see this fan base disappear like weve never seen before. you cant go from rhule to wilks. the smart fans wont pay and wont show up. this will give him more ammo to move the team. 

u got the inside scoop that its wilks?

[NJPanthers12]

Just now, Mage said:

times of extreme misfortune 

[mav1234]

Just now, frankw said:

People don't want to hear it but you are on the money with this in regards to Tepper’s process. Though at least with Reich we will see emphasis on the offense.

Okay, so who actually has a better resume than Reich?

I'd agree Tepper seems to be playing it safer with this hire relative to his last one, but I don't see how this is a poorly made choice made over meatballs or something. Reich has an impressive resume, he's just not as exciting to fans.

[Proudiddy]

Great thread, Ricky.

Sadly, although I like Reich as a person and really liked him as a player (as a young football junkie, I used to trade for Reich on NFL95 on Sega because he was the guy that led the NFL's largest comeback win and one of our first franchise QBs), I just find the hire to be extremely uninspiring.  He may be an offensive-minded coach, but he isn't one of the young guns everyone wanted, and he has a pretty strong, established history of the usual average results we've come to know and expect from our franchise.  He had what, 4 years as HC in Indy?  And he produced a winning percentage right in line with every coach in franchise history with 3 years or more of tenure - barely over .500.  I did love his work as an OC with the Chargers and Eagles, but his results as a HC speak to mote of the same that we're accustomed to.

On one hand, optimistically, I feel like 2 of his years as HC should be omitted because he was attempting to win with Matt fuging Ryan and Carson fuging Wentz.  With Luck and Rivers as his starters, he went a combined 21-11 those years.  But with anyone non-elite, he was extremely average, and that's what bothers me.  We want a transcendent coach whose schemes make even average players look good, and good players look great.  But instead, my feeling on Reich, is much like our past coaches, his success is far more dependent on the level of talent of his players than his players' production being enhanced by his schemes.

It just feels like an offensive version of more of the same.

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

58 minutes ago, ickmule said:

True, but I still don’t think he’s what this franchise needs to build excitement. I’ve never been a fan of his more reserved personality.  I prefer a stern matter of fact personality.  

Sounds like you want Wilks

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Great thread, Ricky.

Sadly, although I like Reich as a person and really liked him as a player (as a young football junkie, I used to trade for Reich on NFL95 on Sega because he was the guy that led the NFL's largest comeback win and one of our first franchise QBs), I just find the hire to be extremely uninspiring.  He may be an offensive-minded coach, but he isn't one of the young guns everyone wanted, and he has a pretty strong, established history of the usual average results we've come to know and expect from our franchise.  He had what, 4 years as HC in Indy?  And he produced a winning percentage right in line with every coach in franchise history with 3 years or more of tenure - barely over .500.

On one hand, optimistically, I feel like 2 of his years as HC should be omitted because he was attempting to win with Matt fuging Ryan and Carson fuging Wentz.  With Luck and Rivers as his starters, he went a combined 21-11 those years.  But with anyone non-elite, he was extremely average, and that's ehat bothers me.  We want a transcendent coach whose schemes make even average players look good, and good players look great.  But instead, my feeling on Reich, is much like our past coaches, his success is far more dependent on the level of talent of his players than his players' production being enhanced by his schemes.

It just feels like an offensive version of more of the same.

Yeah I'm not expecting much with Reich, but the benefit is that he'll swink or swim relatively fast. With Wilks it's .500 land for the next few years

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Nostradamus predicts our record ...

Reich - 9-8

Wilks - 8-9

[carpanfan96]

23 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The tweet says "this is my opinion" and you walked away with it as fact..... that's concerning./cdn-cgi/mirage/ff6543e8920235fbac05d88a86e121d55ab03587783d7290bbc89cb9eab219bc/1280/https://media1.giphy.com/media/pH6bOPv3NRePOlt5Qn/200.gif

Not talking about that tweet. It was talked about days ago by Panther beat reporters, shoot Quick did a dang interview on TV about it.

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2023 by carpanfan96

[UNCrules2187]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Great thread, Ricky.

Sadly, although I like Reich as a person and really liked him as a player (as a young football junkie, I used to trade for Reich on NFL95 on Sega because he was the guy that led the NFL's largest comeback win and one of our first franchise QBs), I just find the hire to be extremely uninspiring.  He may be an offensive-minded coach, but he isn't one of the young guns everyone wanted, and he has a pretty strong, established history of the usual average results we've come to know and expect from our franchise.  He had what, 4 years as HC in Indy?  And he produced a winning percentage right in line with every coach in franchise history with 3 years or more of tenure - barely over .500.

On one hand, optimistically, I feel like 2 of his years as HC should be omitted because he was attempting to win with Matt fuging Ryan and Carson fuging Wentz.  With Luck and Rivers as his starters, he went a combined 21-11 those years.  But with anyone non-elite, he was extremely average, and that's ehat bothers me.  We want a transcendent coach whose schemes make even average players look good, and good players look great.  But instead, my feeling on Reich, is much like our past coaches, his success is far more dependent on the level of talent of his players than his players' production being enhanced by his schemes.

It just feels like an offensive version of more of the same.

To be fair here, it's hard to assess how much a coach is making an average player elite vs a player taking himself to the next level with his own development. It's hard to untangle Belichick's success with Brady, Payton's success with Brees, Reid's success with Mahomes, etc. I think you can clearly point to someone like Kyle Shanahan in being able to elevate the level of play of his signal callers, but even then there are limits to that (Trey Lance has looked like an enormous bust). And like I said, Wentz, who's looked like an average bum under other coaches, had his best years and was playing at an MVP level early in his Philly tenure with Reich as his OC. 

But I totally understand why folks aren't excited by the hire if that's how it goes. I'll be happy with it if only because it's someone who is an offensive mind and not just a sentimental hire.  

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

It just feels like an offensive version of more of the same.

Because it is exactly that.

People are already chugging the kool-aid as a coping mechanism but anyone that expects to win with a hire like that is on some fun meds.

[Mother Grabber]

so far what i’m getting from this thread is that if the current rumors don’t match my interests, tepper is the dumbest mother fugged ever born.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Okay, so who actually has a better resume than Reich?

I'd agree Tepper seems to be playing it safer with this hire relative to his last one, but I don't see how this is a poorly made choice made over meatballs or something. Reich has an impressive resume, he's just not as exciting to fans.

We've taken our time more sure but we went from saying it was going to be a small pool of candidates to bringing in just about anyone who would interview and now we are back to Wilks or a retread. And as far as I can tell no one has so much as given Wilks a call. Now people can speculate that has to do with his lawsuit and it's possible but I don't buy it. I can accept Reich as the head coach. Though he has cons like Wilks we can't overlook that. But again it is at least a new direction so I would wait and let things play out while hoping for the best.