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Report. Panthers pivoting from Shane Steichen


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12 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Look Rivera was known as Riverboat Ron because he was so aggressive. He wasn't conservative. So stop with the huge difference. There isn't one. But that experience thing is the most important thing. We need a proven guy who can assemble a premier staff and hit the ground running. Not someone who is doing everything for the first rime.

The riverboat ron moniker was hugely overblown.  He only started being riverboat ron after he was about to lose his job for being too conservative and anytime that the game really mattered he reverted back to being super conservative.  Going for it on 4th and 1 on the opponent's side of the field in meaningless games with Cam at qb isnt that aggressive.  Its idiotic not to.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I honestly don’t get his point.   It’s still a bit early for me

 

 

wait is this about reich?

Comparing Reich to Reid was a huge tune out for me. Why not throw Wilks in for laughs.

What about the one where Rhule could actually coach? Naratives are BS, some are true and some completely fictinal. No one left on the coaching board is winning a SB here sounds a lot more realistic and relavant for us.

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1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Comparing Reich to Reid was a huge tune out for me. Why not throw Wilks in for laughs.

What about the one where Rhule could actually coach? Naratives are BS, some are true and some completely fictinal. No one left on the coaching board is winning a SB here sounds a lot more realistic and relavant for us.

I mean the narrative on Ron, Lovie, McDaniel, dungy, norv etc are all pretty dead on

 

also I don’t remember Kyle s taking too much heat after the superbowl

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1 hour ago, Growl said:

which professional hiring firm has been brought in to handle these decisions so that the tepper family doesn’t have to

watching the same people just lap up whatever propaganda is thrown their way because it’s their bit part to play despite the team’s almost unbreakable record of making the wrong decision is hilarious 

You keep trying to make everyone wrong because they didn't value steichen instead of looking at the elephant in the room which is that things have to be a good fit and they weren't. Eventually we will find out more about what happened. Until then it is clear that he wasn't our guy and may or may not be ready to be a head coach. But until then, feel free to continue with your baseless comments and  speculation based on your agenda.

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8 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

The riverboat ron moniker was hugely overblown.  He only started being riverboat ron after he was about to lose his job for being too conservative and anytime that the game really mattered he reverted back to being super conservative.  Going for it on 4th and 1 on the opponent's side of the field in meaningless games with Cam at qb isnt that aggressive.  Its idiotic not to.

No he became Riverboat after looking at the analytics over time. And he continued to be aggressive in Washington even when he was first there and his job wasn't at risk. So no you are wrong again just like your whole premise that defensive coordinators can't be aggressive or learn over time. 

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1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

No he became Riverboat after looking at the analytics over time. And he continued to be aggressive in Washington even when he was first there and his job wasn't at risk. So no you are wrong again just like your whole premise that defensive coordinators can't be aggressive or learn over time. 

Ron Rivera is not an aggressive coach.  Where are you getting that?

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I mean the narrative on Ron, Lovie, McDaniel, dungy, norv etc are all pretty dead on

 

also I don’t remember Kyle s taking too much heat after the superbowl

I thought KC and fans did backflips after hiring Reid. Hell his health was the biggest isssue and that is reasonable.

Kyle was heat about the QB. The journeyman wasn't enough but expensive, overcommited to Lance with that trade and may get into the SB again but Purdy is the big wildcard now.

Neither one left a smoking ruin like Payton and the 49ers already have a much better and more stable HC than JH ever was. Pulling from the shinny toxic failures of the Cowboys, a Rivera clone of failure or a rundown OC who hasn't put impressive film together in years. It's champagne time I guess. Looking past Fangio at their DC list it looks like a poostain if they miss on him. Whatever gets us closer to a housecleaning is what I am hoping for at this point...again.

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17 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The selection of candidates left standing is somewhat worrisome, especially considering those available to choose from only a few weeks ago.  

It does bring into question the Panthers vetting process.

Translation all we have left to pick from is garbage

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42 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Ron Rivera is not an aggressive coach.  Where are you getting that?

Rivera was 10th on the list of coaches who go for it on 4 and short when they should.  The bottom number is total times versus when it an advantage to do so.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-s-best-fourth-down-decision-makers-kevin-stefanski-john-harbaugh-among-top-c

 

Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time???

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