Report. Panthers pivoting from Shane Steichen

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Huge assumptions there. More likely is that with him  being an OC for a team in the playoffs and having no experience interviewing as a head coach, he likely wasn't as prepared as others candidates who have done this before.  Some potential head coaches have books, charts and elaborate presentations based on doing the job and interviewing previously. Steichen will have little of that prepared this time around. If he doesn't go anywhere this time he will in the future for sure.

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

[panthers55]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

This was all put in place for the guys who are in the playoffs who miss out on jobs because they have to wait to interview. It is supposed to help them not hurt them.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

Our interview happened well before they were in the NFCC.

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Our interview happened well before they were in the NFCC.

I was speaking in a broader sense than just Steichen. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Have you never interviewed for a job?

 

The interview is the most important part in getting the job. He likely didn't impress in that meeting. Doesn't matter what you have on your resume if you don't impress the boss he's going to find the candidate who did.

 

Also you guys making Steichen the favorite just because he has the #1 offense. Look at his roster the dude better not fail with that talent he has.

Trust the process people!

I've been in interviews where the person doing the interview had no idea how to conduct an interview or what the job they were hiring me to do really was. Interviews are 2 way streets.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I've been in interviews where the person doing the interview had no idea how to conduct an interview or what the job they were hiring me to do really was. Interviews are 2 way streets.

When I was hiring for lab projects years ago I couldnt find the right guys because they were a bunch of chemistry nerds who were anti social.  My boss at the time just said "look at their body of work and go from there".   I get being a nfl coach is way different then being a chemist but if they have had success lean on that and go from there

[WarHeel]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

We do have a thread about all this, BTW.

If a topic has 600+ replies it’s safe to say this could use its own thread. No reason to be a pest.

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

When I was hiring for lab projects years ago I couldnt find the right guys because they were a bunch of chemistry nerds who were anti social.  My boss at the time just said "look at their body of work and go from there".   I get being a nfl coach is way different then being a chemist but if they have had success lean on that and go from there

But guys like steichen have no success at the job they are interviewing for. It is all speculation on how they will do in a new job based on how they did their present job. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of overlap so how you did as a coordinator has little bearing in how you will be as a head coach. So your post holds no water....

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

But guys like steichen have no success at the job they are interviewing for. It is all speculation on how they will do in a new job based on how they did their present job. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of overlap so how you did as a coordinator has little bearing in how you will be as a head coach. So your post holds no water....

sean mcvay, Kyle shannonhan,  zac taylor, sean mcdermott, nick sirianni all agree with you

Edited January 25, 2023 by mrcompletely11

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Huge assumption if you weren't in the interviews and heard what was being said. We have done a great job interviewing everyone and now are in the second round. Unlike the last time with Rhule it seems like we are doing a good job being thorough. 

We can all agree, last time Dave Tepper tried to choose a head coach was a complete disaster.  I am happy to see that he has been more deliberate in his efforts this time around (and that Marty Hurney is no longer involved). 

My assumption (and it is admittedly an assumption) of how the interview process has gone so far is based on my impressions of the remaining candidates, which I find less than encouraging.  However, for someone to conclude the opposite, that Dave Tepper is doing a great job in the interview process, is no less of a huge assumption. 

Chances are, none of us will know if Dave got it right for at least another year or two. 

[Waldo]

25 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The selection of candidates left standing is somewhat worrisome, especially considering those available to choose from only a few weeks ago.  

It does bring into question the Panthers vetting process.

It brings in a lot of room for questions. Unfortunately we have to wait and hear what went on in the process but the candidates left standing are all weak ones IMO.

[panthers55]

33 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

sean mcvay, Kyle shannonhan,  zac taylor, sean mcdermott, nick sirianni all agree with you

You think I can't make a list 3 times as long with coordinators and other folks with no head coach experience who flamed out. Get serious......

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, panthers55 said:

You think I can't make a list 3 times as long with coordinators and other folks with no head coach experience who flamed out. Get serious......

that has absolutely nothing to do with a supposed bad interview

 

sometimes you have to take a risk on a OC that has incredible results

[panthers55]

34 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

We can all agree, last time Dave Tepper tried to choose a head coach was a complete disaster.  I am happy to see that he has been more deliberate in his efforts this time around (and that Marty Hurney is no longer involved). 

My assumption (and it is admittedly an assumption) of how the interview process has gone so far is based on my impressions of the remaining candidates, which I find less than encouraging.  However, for someone to conclude the opposite, that Dave Tepper is doing a great job in the interview process, is no less of a huge assumption. 

Chances are, none of us will know if Dave got it right for at least another year or two. 

I don't think anyone knows if Tepper is doing a good job or not in interviewing but he is taking a more deliberate approach and apparently involving more people. But to assume he is screwing up because he didn't pick your favorite is way over the top. And FWIW Moore is not my first or second choice. But given I have no clue into the process, I am not throwing stone like many of you are with no more understanding than I have.