Report. Panthers pivoting from Shane Steichen

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The selection of candidates left standing is somewhat worrisome, especially considering those available to choose from only a few weeks ago.  

It does bring into question the Panthers vetting process.

Huge assumption if you weren't in the interviews and heard what was being said. We have done a great job interviewing everyone and now are in the second round. Unlike the last time with Rhule it seems like we are doing a good job being thorough. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Huge assumptions there. More likely is that with him  being an OC for a team in the playoffs and having no experience interviewing as a head coach, he likely wasn't as prepared as others candidates who have done this before.  Some potential head coaches have books, charts and elaborate presentations based on doing the job and interviewing previously. Steichen will have little of that prepared this time around. If he doesn't go anywhere this time he will in the future for sure.

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

[panthers55]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

This was all put in place for the guys who are in the playoffs who miss out on jobs because they have to wait to interview. It is supposed to help them not hurt them.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Could also be that he has more pressing things to worry about right now like winning the NFCC and SB. I really don't think interviews should be allowed to start until the playoffs are done so not as to distract some of these coaches getting ready for the big game. 

Our interview happened well before they were in the NFCC.

[CamWhoaaCam]

41 minutes ago, Growl said:

there’s no way you can look at phillys offense in a playoff game and say “this isn’t for us”

even if the interview “didn’t go well,” that’s one of those things that makes you sit back and say “let’s give this a second shot”

steichen likely just didn’t express enough enthusiasm for being here and they aren’t convinced they can get it done so they’re getting ahead of the embarrassment 

Have you never interviewed for a job?

 

The interview is the most important part in getting the job. He likely didn't impress in that meeting. Doesn't matter what you have on your resume if you don't impress the boss he's going to find the candidate who did.

 

Also you guys making Steichen the favorite just because he has the #1 offense. Look at his roster the dude better not fail with that talent he has.

Trust the process people!

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Our interview happened well before they were in the NFCC.

I was speaking in a broader sense than just Steichen. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

When in doubt just hire Wilks and get a new OC.

 

Players clearly want him back. We upgrade at QB the NFC South should be ours next year.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Have you never interviewed for a job?

 

The interview is the most important part in getting the job. He likely didn't impress in that meeting. Doesn't matter what you have on your resume if you don't impress the boss he's going to find the candidate who did.

 

Also you guys making Steichen the favorite just because he has the #1 offense. Look at his roster the dude better not fail with that talent he has.

Trust the process people!

I've been in interviews where the person doing the interview had no idea how to conduct an interview or what the job they were hiring me to do really was. Interviews are 2 way streets.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I've been in interviews where the person doing the interview had no idea how to conduct an interview or what the job they were hiring me to do really was. Interviews are 2 way streets.

When I was hiring for lab projects years ago I couldnt find the right guys because they were a bunch of chemistry nerds who were anti social.  My boss at the time just said "look at their body of work and go from there".   I get being a nfl coach is way different then being a chemist but if they have had success lean on that and go from there

[CamWhoaaCam]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I've been in interviews where the person doing the interview had no idea how to conduct an interview or what the job they were hiring me to do really was. Interviews are 2 way streets.

That's true as well.

[WarHeel]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

We do have a thread about all this, BTW.

If a topic has 600+ replies it’s safe to say this could use its own thread. No reason to be a pest.

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

When I was hiring for lab projects years ago I couldnt find the right guys because they were a bunch of chemistry nerds who were anti social.  My boss at the time just said "look at their body of work and go from there".   I get being a nfl coach is way different then being a chemist but if they have had success lean on that and go from there

That doesn't apply to the NFL.

 

Situation  also matters. Before the season the Eagles were ranked as one of the best rosters in football top to bottom. Hurts has 2 #1 WR's and the best Oline in football. Steichen basically did what he was supposed to do with that roster.

 

Can he lead a team? Will he demand respect from players?

We don't know how that interview went so it's all speculation at this point.

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

When I was hiring for lab projects years ago I couldnt find the right guys because they were a bunch of chemistry nerds who were anti social.  My boss at the time just said "look at their body of work and go from there".   I get being a nfl coach is way different then being a chemist but if they have had success lean on that and go from there

But guys like steichen have no success at the job they are interviewing for. It is all speculation on how they will do in a new job based on how they did their present job. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of overlap so how you did as a coordinator has little bearing in how you will be as a head coach. So your post holds no water....

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

But guys like steichen have no success at the job they are interviewing for. It is all speculation on how they will do in a new job based on how they did their present job. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of overlap so how you did as a coordinator has little bearing in how you will be as a head coach. So your post holds no water....

sean mcvay, Kyle shannonhan,  zac taylor, sean mcdermott, nick sirianni all agree with you

Edited January 25, 2023 by mrcompletely11