Pantherj Mock Draft(s)

[ECHornet]

No trades and post Hurst signing:

Of any trade idea now, I’m thinking trading back from 39 to late second round and adding additional day 2 picks. The Bears and Lions are two teams with options to do that. 

[pantherj]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

No trades and post Hurst signing:

Of any trade idea now, I’m thinking trading back from 39 to late second round and adding additional day 2 picks. The Bears and Lions are two teams with options to do that. 

At this point if we take a TE he will have to be better than Hurst, or replace Ian but until we cut Ian I would skip TE later in the draft. And if we keep Ian I would skip TE altogether in the later rounds. Jmo.

If we address #1 WR in FA, then we should look at TE with our second round pick imo, but I do love Gibbs. I think Gibbs behind our o-line would have a chance to be like Alvin Kamara in his prime when he used to care us up. We just desperately need a big #1 TE to make things easier on whatever rookie QB is out there, but Gibbs is really good too.  

 

[ECHornet]

18 minutes ago, pantherj said:

At this point if we take a TE he will have to be better than Hurst, or replace Ian but until we cut Ian I would skip TE later in the draft. And if we keep Ian I would skip TE altogether in the later rounds. Jmo.

If we address #1 WR in FA, then we should look at TE with our second round pick imo, but I do love Gibbs. I think Gibbs behind our o-line would have a chance to be like Alvin Kamara in his prime when he used to care us up. We just desperately need a big #1 TE to make things easier on whatever rookie QB is out there, but Gibbs is really good too.  

 

Hurst will be our TE1 next year with Thomas or Tremble TE2/3, unless we draft a TE. If we do, Tremble can take Ricci’s  role or we can release/trade Thomas. I like Kuntz late because of his size and athleticism, and that playing behind Hurst will allow him and Tremble time to develop. 
 

His measurables are crazy. People are freaking out over Washington, but Kuntz is the same height, 10lbs less, ran the forty a tenth second faster than Washington and out jumped him by 9” in the vertical and 6” in broad jump. He also benched more reps. He could be a huge steal in the 4th or later, but I suspect front offices paid attention at the combine and he’ll rise. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by ECHornet

[pantherj]

7 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Hurst will be our TE1 next year with Thomas or Tremble TE2/3, unless we draft a TE. If we do, Tremble can take Ricci’s  role or we can release/trade Thomas. I like Kuntz late because of his size and athleticism, and that playing behind Hurst will allow him and Tremble time to develop. 
 

His measurables are crazy. People are freaking out over Washington, but Kuntz is the same height, 10lbs less, ran the forty a tenth second faster than Washington and out jumped him by 9” in the vertical and 6” in broad jump. He also benched more reps. He could be a huge steal in the 4th or later, but I suspect front offices paid attention at the combine and he’ll rise. 

I think Washington would have the edge on run blocking over Kuntz, and Washington has the body development. You know Kuntz, to be 6'7 or 6'8 and perform like he did at the underwear Olympics might be something we're never seen before. He's a freak, but how long before he is NFL ready? I think that's why he's projected so low. He'll have to fill out in the weight room, like another 10 pounds or more. 

[ECHornet]

2 minutes ago, pantherj said:

I think Washington would have the edge on run blocking over Kuntz, and Washington has the body development. You know Kuntz, to be 6'7 or 6'8 and perform like he did at the underwear Olympics might be something we're never seen before. He's a freak, but how long before he is NFL ready? I think that's why he's projected so low. He'll have to fill out in the weight room, like another 10 pounds or more. 

He weighed 10lbs less but benched two more reps than Washington. I don’t think he’s far from Washington in strength and his explosiveness if already better, and you can get him in a later round as opposed to top 2nd. 
 

He can be TE3 for two years and then be ready to take over when we move on from Hurst. Tremble is in the same boat. 

[pantherj]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

He weighed 10lbs less but benched two more reps than Washington. I don’t think he’s far from Washington in strength and his explosiveness if already better, and you can get him in a later round as opposed to top 2nd. 
 

He can be TE3 for two years and then be ready to take over when we move on from Hurst. Tremble is in the same boat. 

Yeah I think if he has like a season of NFL weight training and he can get more powerful then you've got something there. Just looking at his arms and legs, and he kinda is like a big WRs who doesn't really like the contact, if he can transition to a bigger tougher guy who can block and scrap more then that is great. You've found yourself a later round gem there. 

[ECHornet]

39 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Yeah I think if he has like a season of NFL weight training and he can get more powerful then you've got something there. Just looking at his arms and legs, and he kinda is like a big WRs who doesn't really like the contact, if he can transition to a bigger tougher guy who can block and scrap more then that is great. You've found yourself a later round gem there. 

I think that description fits Musgrave and many have him going early day 2. 

[pantherj]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

I think that description fits Musgrave and many have him going early day 2. 

So what round do you think Kuntz will go in the actual draft?

[ECHornet]

12 minutes ago, pantherj said:

So what round do you think Kuntz will go in the actual draft?

4th probably. Someone will gamble on his size & athleticism combo. 

[pantherj]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

4th probably. Someone will gamble on his size & athleticism combo. 

Here is a nice video on Kuntz.

 

[ECHornet]

5 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Here is a nice video on Kuntz.

 

Agree that’s a good video. First time I’ve heard someone mention him possibly in the 3rd. As I feared, he’ll likely be gone by our 4th round picks. 

[pantherj]

10 hours ago, ECHornet said:

No trades and post Hurst signing:

Of any trade idea now, I’m thinking trading back from 39 to late second round and adding additional day 2 picks. The Bears and Lions are two teams with options to do that. 

Welp I don't know if you heard the news yet, but I think you can stop mocking Gibbs to us. We just signed Miles Sanders.

[ECHornet]

33 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Welp I don't know if you heard the news yet, but I think you can stop mocking Gibbs to us. We just signed Miles Sanders.

Just saw that. I’ll take it! 

[pantherj]