Why is mediocrity so attractive?

[Ivan The Awesome]

I've been doing some critical thinking. It seems that most fans are ready to go back to mediocrity. I include myself in this. Yes what Wilks did was nothing short of amazing. But if you really think about it. He went 6-6.  The guy before the fraud we had at HC was that. Mediocre. It's a reccuring theme it seems. Look at buffalo. Another Rivera tree product is up there and they are a playoffs team loaded with talent with a franchise QB and they.. can't.  Get. Over. The. Hump.  We're seeing it play out. Daboll left and all of a sudden the Bills aren't as good in offense. McDermott is still there but I digress. 

 

Honestly it's time to move on from the same thing that this team does over and over and over again and expects different outcomes. Yeah we'll be a playoffs team, sure it will be a good story to see Wilks that's from Charlotte have success but the writing is on the wall, he comes from that same tree of mediocrity. I for one am tired of that. It's time to go a different direction. No I don't want Payton. Or Dorsey. Steichen is the guy. Sirianni told him to take over and Hurts is basically an MVP candidate all of a sudden. He's the guy.  /Rant over. 

[therealmjl]

Steichen + Levis/Stroud/Young to the MOON

[Waldo]

[Coheed]

You throw any of the guys we’re looking at in at HC after Rhule was fired and I don’t think a lot of them fair better than 6-6 given where the team was at the time.
 

Id rather us not go Wilks/defensive coach and get Rivera era 2.0, and much prefer Steichen, Kafka or Reich, but give credit where it’s due - I don’t think 6-6 is jaw dropping or outstanding, but it’s definitely not mediocre given the situation at the time.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Coheed

[UNCrules2187]

My preferred choice at this stage is Steichen plus a trade up to draft one of Young/Stroud/Levis. I think the best shot of that is if Chicago trades back with Indianapolis, then trades down again. 9 and 39 should be enough to move from 9 to 4.

[Kentucky Panther]

It’s sad that going 6-6, losing all big games, and being embarrassed in others, is the shiny new toy for some Panthers fans. Newsflash, we can do better, and the odds of the right guy being on our roster the entire time are slim to none. Especially considering literally no other team even wants to pick up the phone and call about him. 

[Byrdman4real]

I dont want Wilks as the coach for the same reasons as you but others also for the sake of Wilks reputation. The owner wants to win now and alot of pressure will be on Wilks when he possibly need more time. Plus I don't like to bring race into it but as a black head coach, opportunities are low. So he needs to go somewhere to get a far opportunity and I strongly feel like he won't get one as Panthers coach. 

[toldozer]

19 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

I've been doing some critical thinking. It seems that most fans are ready to go back to mediocrity. I include myself in this. Yes what Wilks did was nothing short of amazing. But if you really think about it. He went 6-6.  The guy before the fraud we had at HC was that. Mediocre. It's a reccuring theme it seems. Look at buffalo. Another Rivera tree product is up there and they are a playoffs team loaded with talent with a franchise QB and they.. can't.  Get. Over. The. Hump.  We're seeing it play out. Daboll left and all of a sudden the Bills aren't as good in offense. McDermott is still there but I digress. 

 

Honestly it's time to move on from the same thing that this team does over and over and over again and expects different outcomes. Yeah we'll be a playoffs team, sure it will be a good story to see Wilks that's from Charlotte have success but the writing is on the wall, he comes from that same tree of mediocrity. I for one am tired of that. It's time to go a different direction. No I don't want Payton. Or Dorsey. Steichen is the guy. Sirianni told him to take over and Hurts is basically an MVP candidate all of a sudden. He's the guy.  /Rant over. 

They've given Allen Prime Cam level weapons outside of Diggs. They have a really good defense and a stud qb on offense without much else. They are the panthers from 2013-2017.  Absolutely on the Shane train and give me a wr opposite of Moore at number 9. Roll with Corral. If he sucks we get maye or Williams and mother fuging profit for 10+ years 

Edited January 24, 2023 by toldozer

[Wundrbread33]

Mediocrity isn’t attractive. Everyone wants to win. 
 

People don’t want to be mediocre. You see Wilks as mediocre (which is an opinion), and therefore anyone who wants him as HC finds “mediocrity attractive.”

 

Thats ridiculous. Some see 6-6 as good, in context. Some only see 6-6 and don’t care about context. 
 

It’s just opinions.

 

Literally everyone here wants to win games and Super Bowls. Come on. 

[frankw]

Take a swing on something different from what we've been doing for about two decades now. We still don't even have back to back winning seasons. What do we have to lose? Go offense.

[BIGH2001]

23 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

I've been doing some critical thinking. It seems that most fans are ready to go back to mediocrity. I include myself in this. Yes what Wilks did was nothing short of amazing. But if you really think about it. He went 6-6.  The guy before the fraud we had at HC was that. Mediocre. It's a reccuring theme it seems. Look at buffalo. Another Rivera tree product is up there and they are a playoffs team loaded with talent with a franchise QB and they.. can't.  Get. Over. The. Hump.  We're seeing it play out. Daboll left and all of a sudden the Bills aren't as good in offense. McDermott is still there but I digress. 

 

Honestly it's time to move on from the same thing that this team does over and over and over again and expects different outcomes. Yeah we'll be a playoffs team, sure it will be a good story to see Wilks that's from Charlotte have success but the writing is on the wall, he comes from that same tree of mediocrity. I for one am tired of that. It's time to go a different direction. No I don't want Payton. Or Dorsey. Steichen is the guy. Sirianni told him to take over and Hurts is basically an MVP candidate all of a sudden. He's the guy.  /Rant over. 

I disagree with the Buffalo point. I mean they have been there with a chance three straight years. Plenty of franchise QBs win 0 or 1 super bowl during their career. You want a coach and a roster that can get you there with a chance to win it all. That’s the step we are on now. 

Edited January 24, 2023 by BIGH2001

[Khaki Lackey]

7 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

I dont want Wilks as the coach for the same reasons as you but others also for the sake of Wilks reputation. The owner wants to win now and alot of pressure will be on Wilks when he possibly need more time. Plus I don't like to bring race into it but as a black head coach, opportunities are low. So he needs to go somewhere to get a far opportunity and I strongly feel like he won't get one as Panthers coach. 

If you want opportunities, you don't punt to Tom Brady rather than taking a shot at a play at midfield with a 70% success rate....with your career on the line.

[LinvilleGorge]

We want to go back to having a chance of having a really good team.  Our history isn't one of mediocrity as much as it is one of being hit or miss. But at least we had some hits.

[travisura]

6-6 imo is actually a good result, all things considered. What soured me on Wilks was watching the Pittsburg game, and the second Tampa game. Those were both very winnable games and we were shown up. And the second Tamps game was almost a "win and you're in" type game with nothing to lose. I'm not sure how anyone who watched those games could genuinely want Wilks back.