New Coach Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo

[The Lobo]

If it’s between Wilks and Reich, just keep Wilks. If we get Reich we are going to end up with his boy Wentz and be right back to 5-12.

[t96]

Somehow I let my blind fandom get me excited about hiring a new HC this cycle but the longer this goes on the more I realize that Tepper is the one making the hire and he's made wrong decision after wrong decision since he bought the team. As it sits right now I have no hope that he'll make the right decision, no matter who it is that we hire. This team will likely be a dumpster fire indefinitely, until someone can dig up some dirt on Tep and force him out like JR, Snyder, etc.

[FuFuLamePoo]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

The guys at the morning show at WFNZ here the last hour.

said their sources told them that Steichen didn’t interview well in the first rd of interviews.

Those WFNZ guys do not have sources lmao

[UNCrules2187]

Latest from ESPN (paywall); nothing that hasn’t already been speculated IMO:

Fowler: It wouldn't surprise if Steve Wilks is a finalist, along with at least one offensive-coordinator candidate -- think along the lines of Buffalo's Ken Dorsey, Philadelphia's Shane Steichen or New York's Mike Kafka. People around the league are torn as to whether David Tepper will aggressively pursue Payton. Tepper is big on value, cost analysis and checks and balances. Giving up a bunch of picks for the right to pay a coach $20-plus million a year doesn't seem like his plan, especially coming off the failed Matt Rhule experiment. But Tepper is also very aggressive, and I found it interesting when the Panthers interviewed Kris Richard for defensive coordinator. Payton is known to be a fan of Richard from their days together in New Orleans. I was also told this week not to sleep on Frank Reich's candidacy. He interviewed well there.

Graziano: Yeah, I think Reich remains in the mix in Carolina, though the Panthers do seem to have a type in terms of this interview cycle -- the young offensive coordinator. They added the Cowboys' Kellen Moore to the list this week, and I do think Dorsey and Kafka remain on the radar. Wilks can't be ruled out, I don't think. The Panthers like him, and the team responded well to him as interim head coach in the second half of the season. But given how heavy the rest of their candidates list is on the offensive-minded types, it seems as if they might be inclined to go with one of them as they prioritize finally getting the quarterback situation right.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/35516868/nfl-head-coach-openings-latest-buzz-top-candidates-broncos-cardinals-colts-panthers-texans

 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, UNCrules2187 said:

Latest from ESPN (paywall); nothing that hasn’t already been speculated IMO:

Fowler: It wouldn't surprise if Steve Wilks is a finalist, along with at least one offensive-coordinator candidate -- think along the lines of Buffalo's Ken Dorsey, Philadelphia's Shane Steichen or New York's Mike Kafka. People around the league are torn as to whether David Tepper will aggressively pursue Payton. Tepper is big on value, cost analysis and checks and balances. Giving up a bunch of picks for the right to pay a coach $20-plus million a year doesn't seem like his plan, especially coming off the failed Matt Rhule experiment. But Tepper is also very aggressive, and I found it interesting when the Panthers interviewed Kris Richard for defensive coordinator. Payton is known to be a fan of Richard from their days together in New Orleans. I was also told this week not to sleep on Frank Reich's candidacy. He interviewed well there.

Graziano: Yeah, I think Reich remains in the mix in Carolina, though the Panthers do seem to have a type in terms of this interview cycle -- the young offensive coordinator. They added the Cowboys' Kellen Moore to the list this week, and I do think Dorsey and Kafka remain on the radar. Wilks can't be ruled out, I don't think. The Panthers like him, and the team responded well to him as interim head coach in the second half of the season. But given how heavy the rest of their candidates list is on the offensive-minded types, it seems as if they might be inclined to go with one of them as they prioritize finally getting the quarterback situation right.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/35516868/nfl-head-coach-openings-latest-buzz-top-candidates-broncos-cardinals-colts-panthers-texans

 

1.  It wouldnt surprise.............

2. I think........

 

Nobody knows poo at this point

[glenwo2]

14 hours ago, frankw said:

Looking more and more like Wilks. Fug it get it done I guess. I got the popcorn ready for when his supporters jump ship and start calling for his job.

This is going to be one hell of a train wreck. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

31 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I understand politically why this would be the move.  I believe in the political motivation of being paid off of merit and not because of prejudice. 

However, If I performed admirably at a job that I had to fill in for and they decided to give me a shot after I wasn't intended to be the hire, I would be under more scrutiny and there would be less guarantees. 

Conversation may go like this. 

"We're going to give you a shot at this because you performed over expectation on an interim basis.  We know what the statistics are on interim coach full time hires.  We want to protect ourselves if we see a decline in production.   We're going to give you an opportunity to make the playoffs this year and if that happens we will look at a long term extension, if not we may go another route.  Sound fair?"

I think it's fair to offer an unproven commodity a smaller deal when you are offering the opportunity of a lifetime to that person that they would otherwise not receive.  The reason I use the term "otherwise" is more of an observation on offensive coaches being hired rather then an aging defensive backs coaches.

I don't think Wilks has enough a body of work as a HC or DC to really warrant contention in a normal year.  Now he did a great job as an interim, which is why he may get the job, but it's very risky and if Steve stagnates this coming season we will need to let him go.  I want the team to have an exit strategy if Wilks is the hire and he doesn't perform. 

Yeah I expect Wilks to be on the hot seat coming in 2023 if he is hired. 
He will likely gets a 3 year contract and be told he needs to make the playoffs this year.

[Kentucky Panther]

Do not agree at all with those saying if it’s down to Reich or Wilks to just keep Wilks. I would rather have FR a billion times over simply due to his specialty being the offensive side of the ball. He would be a lot better for our presumed rookie QB. 

[Growl]

I can’t think of anything that would deflate this fanbase faster than going through this hiring cycle with an emphasis on progression and revitalization and a commitment to joining the current NFL only to end up with Steve Wilks back as head coach to lead the panthers to ~.500 over the next three seasons 

i think I’d just be done. It wouldn’t even be a protest thing. I simply could not work up the enthusiasm to to watch this milquetoast    blandmobile chug ahead again with the same formula that has perpetually failed to yield them back to back winning seasons

I didn’t watch a down of panthers football between the ravens and final Saints game last season, it wasn’t intentional, I just had no desire to watch that ballclub. So the template is already there. Idk how many times this team try to do it the same way with the same insufficient results and still talk themselves into plodding ahead.

”but Wilks says he has a plan!”

Lol

Edited January 25, 2023 by Growl

[TLGPanthersFan]

29 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

i’m glad they are doing it like big boys this time. hiring at a top level of any org is about as big a move as you can make, so you’d better do your homework.

i have a feeling Wilks and Reich will be more like Foxball than not, but that’s just my speculation.

I do look at the production he got out of Wentz but how much of that was Pederson?

[Growl]

3 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Do not agree at all with those saying if it’s down to Reich or Wilks to just keep Wilks. I would rather have FR a billion times over simply due to his specialty being the offensive side of the ball. He would be a lot better for our presumed rookie QB. 

yeah I cant believe I’ve talked myself into frank reich but here we are 

[Growl]

“Steichen didn’t interview well”

-the team realizing they aren’t going to get Steichen 

[stan786]

2 minutes ago, Growl said:

I can’t think of anything that would deflate this fanbase faster than going through this hiring cycle with an emphasis on progression and revitalization and a commitment to joining the current NFL only to end up with Steve Wilks back as head coach to lead the panthers to ~.500 over the next three seasons 

i think I’d just be done. It wouldn’t even be a protest thing. I simply could not work up the enthusiasm to to watch this milquetoast    blandmobile chug ahead again with the same formula that has perpetually failed to yield them back to back winning seasons

I'm in the same boat, I wouldn't even be able to work up the energy to be mad. It would just be a sign we aren't going to ever be in a position to consistently compete and it would be hard to work up my desire to watch it.

[Prowler2k18]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I do look at the production he got out of Wentz but how much of that was Pederson?

I doubt anyone in the front office would sign off on Wentz coming here. We can certainly do better with whoever we hire.