Post your 2023 Off-season Predictions!

[Stingray3030]

18 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Why are you comparing him to Malik Willis?

One QB played in the SEC the other played in a conference I never heard of.

Cmon man stop being lazy with your comparisons.  

He didn't compare him to Willis statistically - he compared the level of over-hype without statistical backup.  Same could be compared to Zach Wilson....Trey Lance....over-hyped draft bait that rarely works out but teams bite on.

Personally I agree AR is a HARD pass at #9......RD 2 or 3 maybe....

[Stingray3030]

I still think the best move for us given our needs, draft spots, money available, and available FA's is this:

Re-sign Bozeman & Foreman

Sign preferably Carr to a 3-yr deal.....or Jimmy G to a 1-2 yr....and Darnold to a 2-yr deal @$7-8M.  Darnold is the clear backup to protect injury worries, Corral sits and learns.  This QB class doesn't appear to have enough potential for a #9 pick and we can't really afford to give away much more to move up very far.  So unless Stroud falls into our lap at 9 I take a chance with a Vet and use the 9 pick elsewhere

Sign Gesicki, Van der Esch, Dean, Bates, David Long.....get at least 2 of those as massive upgrades.  My #1 desire past QB in FA is Long.  The MLB is the QB of the defense and we have never been the same since LUKE....we have to get that squared up

Use our picks to fill the gaps - since we have QB solved take one of the top WR's or Edge rushers or DL with #9.  2nd rounders go to a TE, MLB, CB, S, OL depending on availability and what we got in FA.  I could see us getting Mayer, Sewell, Hargrove, Carter II, Ricks.....lots of solid talent in what we need in the 2nd round this year.  I'd rather sure up QB in a Vet instead of trading 2nd round picks to move up

I'm not saying all of this is possible....just listing a strategy and a group of possible fits

[Montsta]

2 hours ago, Stingray3030 said:

I still think the best move for us given our needs, draft spots, money available, and available FA's is this:

Re-sign Bozeman & Foreman

Sign preferably Carr to a 3-yr deal.....or Jimmy G to a 1-2 yr....and Darnold to a 2-yr deal @$7-8M.  Darnold is the clear backup to protect injury worries, Corral sits and learns.  This QB class doesn't appear to have enough potential for a #9 pick and we can't really afford to give away much more to move up very far.  So unless Stroud falls into our lap at 9 I take a chance with a Vet and use the 9 pick elsewhere

Sign Gesicki, Van der Esch, Dean, Bates, David Long.....get at least 2 of those as massive upgrades.  My #1 desire past QB in FA is Long.  The MLB is the QB of the defense and we have never been the same since LUKE....we have to get that squared up

Use our picks to fill the gaps - since we have QB solved take one of the top WR's or Edge rushers or DL with #9.  2nd rounders go to a TE, MLB, CB, S, OL depending on availability and what we got in FA.  I could see us getting Mayer, Sewell, Hargrove, Carter II, Ricks.....lots of solid talent in what we need in the 2nd round this year.  I'd rather sure up QB in a Vet instead of trading 2nd round picks to move up

I'm not saying all of this is possible....just listing a strategy and a group of possible fits

Jimmy G is trash. Any opinion that involves taking Jimmy G, in any capacity, for any money or any length of time, is moot. No disrespect, but cross that trash off your list. 

[Stingray3030]

1 hour ago, Montsta said:

Jimmy G is trash. Any opinion that involves taking Jimmy G, in any capacity, for any money or any length of time, is moot. No disrespect, but cross that trash off your list. 

You are certainly welcome to your opinion - but for a lower price I am good with him for a few years.

[GOAT]

Cam and Lamar really blurred fans vision when it comes to QB evaluation.

Every time they see some gun slinging, fast, agile, running QB they think Cam! Lamar!

Soooooooooo much more goes into it than that. 

[Stingray3030]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So where does Aaron Rodgers land?

 

Jets/Raiders seem like the most realistic.

 

It would have to be a crazy offer for a team in the NFC to land him.

I am hoping Raiders....it would likely include giving up the first round pick this year which is one less QB needy team ahead of us.

[Stingray3030]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What do Bridgewater/Darnold/Mayfield/Carr/Jimmy G all have in common?

They play QB in the NFL.....other than that not so sure.

[Basbear]

20 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

I will change my line of thinking when I see him throw like an NFL QB

Ive seen NFL throws and lots of bad ones too........seen drops too. His arm is legit, it maybe better than levis...... You got to see past those bad FL coaches, but many reports they didnt have faith in him...... they never coached him up as well...

My main reasoning is he will blow-up the combine, in everything size, speed, arm, etc etc. I hope he lifts too.....once compared to the others, straight mis-match....

Hes the classic "potential" type....

@me after the combine. 

Edited February 2, 2023 by Basbear

[Turtle]

4 hours ago, Stingray3030 said:

I am hoping Raiders....it would likely include giving up the first round pick this year which is one less QB needy team ahead of us.

If they trade that pick for Rodgers, that puts GB in that spot. Who, will be a QB needy team post trade.

[Turtle]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Jordan Love says remember me?

Shoooooot man. Is he the guy?

[Turtle]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im pretty sure that's why they drafted him.lol

Thought I had seen he wanted out, and GB seemed willing to oblige. Mutually disgruntled. If they’re in the mix at the top of the draft wouldn’t be surprised to see GB scoop any of the top 4 ‘23 QB prospects after a big off season trade of Rodgers to LV.

[Stingray3030]

17 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

They all average QB's who will have us in the same position next year looking for another QB.

Why are you still on the bridge QB train?

Because of the reasons I stated - our current draft position, teams ahead of us who need a QB, the cost of moving up, not the strongest QB options in the draft, the guys available in FA, cap space....

You don't overpay for a drafted QB just because you need a QB....if you don't see them as a long term Top 10 QB you don't draft them 9th....period.  Would you rather have 3 solid years of QB play and all our picks the next 2 years, or risk a QB bust giving up 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks to move up?  For reference here are 2 scenarios that are very possible with our current situation:

Option #1 - Carr, #1 WR in draft, #2 TE or #2 MLB

Option #2 - Zach Wilson (but looks like CJ Stroud), same WR's and TE's we have now cause you traded our 2nd and 3rd round pick to move up

Option #1 is all but guaranteed real if you can get Carr - the draft picks aren't guaranteed to be special but you have a very good shot.  Option #2 you could get the next Zach Wilson or the next Trevor Lawrence....only about a 20-30% chance at best.....and you are guaranteed to lose 2 of the best prospects at their position to trade up for him.

Opinions differ, but I believe the smarter play given the situation we are in is my original post.  It isn't that I was bridge QB's - but I don't see the next Trevor, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Hurts, or Jackson in this draft....certainly not enough to make me give up top picks to get Stroud over AR.  If it was 2021 I would gladly give up those picks for Trevor....even before this past season.....but none of these guys look like that.

[glenwo2]

2 hours ago, Stingray3030 said:

Option #1 - Carr, #1 WR in draft, #2 TE or #2 MLB

Option #2 - Zach Wilson (but looks like CJ Stroud), same WR's and TE's we have now cause you traded our 2nd and 3rd round pick to move up

Option #1 is all but guaranteed real if you can get Carr - the draft picks aren't guaranteed to be special but you have a very good shot.  Option #2 you could get the next Zach Wilson or the next Trevor Lawrence....only about a 20-30% chance at best.....and you are guaranteed to lose 2 of the best prospects at their position to trade up for him.

Opinions differ, but I believe the smarter play given the situation we are in is my original post.  It isn't that I was bridge QB's - but I don't see the next Trevor, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Hurts, or Jackson in this draft....certainly not enough to make me give up top picks to get Stroud over AR.  If it was 2021 I would gladly give up those picks for Trevor....even before this past season.....but none of these guys look like that.

You are calling CJ Stroud....ZACH F'N WILSON??? 

Edited February 3, 2023 by glenwo2

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, Stingray3030 said:

Because of the reasons I stated - our current draft position, teams ahead of us who need a QB, the cost of moving up, not the strongest QB options in the draft, the guys available in FA, cap space....

You don't overpay for a drafted QB just because you need a QB....if you don't see them as a long term Top 10 QB you don't draft them 9th....period.  Would you rather have 3 solid years of QB play and all our picks the next 2 years, or risk a QB bust giving up 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks to move up?  For reference here are 2 scenarios that are very possible with our current situation:

Option #1 - Carr, #1 WR in draft, #2 TE or #2 MLB

Option #2 - Zach Wilson (but looks like CJ Stroud), same WR's and TE's we have now cause you traded our 2nd and 3rd round pick to move up

Option #1 is all but guaranteed real if you can get Carr - the draft picks aren't guaranteed to be special but you have a very good shot.  Option #2 you could get the next Zach Wilson or the next Trevor Lawrence....only about a 20-30% chance at best.....and you are guaranteed to lose 2 of the best prospects at their position to trade up for him.

Opinions differ, but I believe the smarter play given the situation we are in is my original post.  It isn't that I was bridge QB's - but I don't see the next Trevor, Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Hurts, or Jackson in this draft....certainly not enough to make me give up top picks to get Stroud over AR.  If it was 2021 I would gladly give up those picks for Trevor....even before this past season.....but none of these guys look like that.

Teams won’t trade out of the top pick when it’s a talent like Lawrence with little question marks. You can only get those guys by finishing last.