MNF: Bills vs. Bengals *game suspended* - prayers for Damar Hamlin

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the quoted stats are less than 50 cases of this a year on average of that commotio cortis happening. 

 

Did it say how the other cases came about? The interview I saw didn't go into how many cases there were of this. They way he explained it the chest impact had to be at an exact location and exact point in the heartbeat cycle. I'm curious about the other cases now.

Edited January 5, 2023 by Jon Snow

[Harbingers]

This tweet doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but make of it what you will. 

[Catsfan69]

11 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Did it say how the other cases came about? The interview I saw didn't go into how many cases there were of this. They way he explained it the chest impact had to be at an exact location and exact point in the heartbeat cycle. I'm curious about the other cases now.

Quick snippet UNC Health

Commotio cordis is very rare. Only about two dozen cases are reported every year. “It's actually more common in activities like martial arts and sometimes baseball, if you catch a baseball to the chest.2 days ago

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Catsfan69 said:

Quick snippet UNC Health

Commotio cordis is very rare. Only about two dozen cases are reported every year. “It's actually more common in activities like martial arts and sometimes baseball, if you catch a baseball to the chest.2 days ago

Like I said, it's just a freak thing.

[Catsfan69]

6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Like I said, it's just a freak thing.

That's right. It's just something that happened. 

If you play fundamentally sound football your chance of catastrophic injury ( some may consider CTE catastrophic) is pretty low.

 

But the first time you put on a helmet there is a sticker that flat out says improper use can cause paralysis or death. Coaches (well good coaches emphasize this) 

Overall football is pretty safe.  Hell the first 9 years I played that wouldn't give you water until practice was over.

They'd yell water is for the weak.

You won't get water on the field in the 4th quarter you won't get it now. Acclimate!

And the time honored water is for pussies.

 

Hell if a guy passed out from lack of water he was chastised back then.

The equipment is better the treatment and medical is better. 

 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Did it say how the other cases came about? The interview I saw didn't go into how many cases there were of this. They way he explained it the chest impact had to be at an exact location and exact point in the heartbeat cycle. I'm curious about the other cases now.

I think something like 50-60% recover 100% but IIRC all the other cases were fatal.

 

[kungfoodude]

59 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

That's right. It's just something that happened. 

If you play fundamentally sound football your chance of catastrophic injury ( some may consider CTE catastrophic) is pretty low.

 

But the first time you put on a helmet there is a sticker that flat out says improper use can cause paralysis or death. Coaches (well good coaches emphasize this) 

Overall football is pretty safe.  Hell the first 9 years I played that wouldn't give you water until practice was over.

They'd yell water is for the weak.

You won't get water on the field in the 4th quarter you won't get it now. Acclimate!

And the time honored water is for pussies.

 

Hell if a guy passed out from lack of water he was chastised back then.

The equipment is better the treatment and medical is better. 

 

And people aren't wantonly ignorant like back then. I remember all that BS.

Think of all the poor kids and young men that died for that ignorance.

[trueblade]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

This tweet doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but make of it what you will. 

CNN reporting the same thing.

[The Natural]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Lungs healing is an interesting statement. Maybe we aren't correct in our assumptions or maybe that's CPR damage?

CPR more often than not is going to break ribs. It's VERY hard on the body.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, trueblade said:

CNN reporting the same thing.

That is great news!

[dave-o]

Unpopular opinion....  I am amazed at the drama of this whole situation...  In the real world life and death happen all the time on the job...  Its a good thing nurses, emergency personel, law enforcement, and military dont need all this drama after every unpleasant incident...  Hope the dude makes a full recovery but come on.....

[Tbe]

13 minutes ago, dave-o said:

Unpopular opinion....  I am amazed at the drama of this whole situation...  In the real world life and death happen all the time on the job...  Its a good thing nurses, emergency personel, law enforcement, and military dont need all this drama after every unpleasant incident...  Hope the dude makes a full recovery but come on.....

I know, but it makes a difference when people see it happen. 

The emotional impact of seeing something happen vs just hearing about is night and day.

We’ve all had those ‘you had to be there’ experiences. 

[frankw]

15 minutes ago, dave-o said:

Unpopular opinion....  I am amazed at the drama of this whole situation...  In the real world life and death happen all the time on the job...  Its a good thing nurses, emergency personel, law enforcement, and military dont need all this drama after every unpleasant incident...  Hope the dude makes a full recovery but come on.....

I can see what you are saying from a social media standpoint but it's just basic human empathy man it doesn't cost you anything.

[Cullenator]

23 minutes ago, dave-o said:

Unpopular opinion....  I am amazed at the drama of this whole situation...  In the real world life and death happen all the time on the job...  Its a good thing nurses, emergency personel, law enforcement, and military dont need all this drama after every unpleasant incident...  Hope the dude makes a full recovery but come on.....

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