Wilks Set This Team Back

[TLGPanthersFan]

14 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Yet we are still back to square one and still talking about the draft, just picking a few spots lower.

It was nice that Joe Bob and Mary Alice got to cheer for the Panthers before switching into their other teams jersey, I guess.

It is not like we were making any noise in the playoffs anyway. Wilkes screwed us for personal gain, there is no upside. 

Not according to the crazies on here. According to them we not only could beat the Cowboys but may even make the Super Bowl. 
(They know who they are.)

[Kentucky Panther]

8 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Not according to the crazies on here. According to them we not only could beat the Cowboys but may even make the Super Bowl. 
(They know who they are.)

This is correct. The best thing for the Panthers was not making the playoffs this season. I will never understand the logic those posters have, wanting to win meaningless games instead of getting better, perhaps even franchise changing, assets in the upcoming draft. Whoever the five seed is would have killed is. 

[Carl Spackler]

I just don't understand why people desperately want the team to lose, and when they do, they lash out and disparage the coaches and players

[Carl Spackler]

2 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

This is correct. The best thing for the Panthers was not making the playoffs this season. I will never understand the logic those posters have, wanting to win meaningless games instead of getting better, perhaps even franchise changing, assets in the upcoming draft. Whoever the five seed is would have killed is. 

What is a meaningful game?

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

11 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I just don't understand why people desperately want the team to lose, and when they do, they lash out and disparage the coaches and players

Because these subpar players and coaches losing means we can pick up better ones in the offseason. Otherwise we’re stuck in mediocrity like always

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

12 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

What is a meaningful game?

Any game before we pile up 5 losses in a row for an early season end to our playoff hopes

[Carl Spackler]

3 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Any game before we pile up 5 losses in a row for an early season end to our playoff hopes

Haven't lost more than 3 straight all year tbh

[Kentucky Panther]

14 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

What is a meaningful game?

Games where we are in contention. Which we haven’t been in since the beginning of the season, before we realized we suck again. In contention is not sitting in second place of the short bus division of the NFL. In contention meaning we have a chance to make the championship. 
 

The line of thinking is that with the current state of the team/coaches, the better chance at building for next season is with the draft. Not limping into the playoffs with a losing record. Playoffs would have been fun for a week, but it would not have benefited the Panthers more than getting a higher pick. 

[Carl Spackler]

8 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Games where we are in contention. Which we haven’t been in since the beginning of the season, before we realized we suck again. In contention is not sitting in second place of the short bus division of the NFL. In contention meaning we have a chance to make the championship. 
 

The line of thinking is that with the current state of the team/coaches, the better chance at building for next season is with the draft. Not limping into the playoffs with a losing record. Playoffs would have been fun for a week, but it would not have benefited the Panthers more than getting a higher pick. 

So the Panthers could, by your metric, go a decade of 170 meaningless games.

[Kentucky Panther]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

So the Panthers could, by your metric, go a decade of 170 meaningless games.

No. I literally said the games at the beginning of this season weren’t meaningless. 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Because these subpar players and coaches losing means we can pick up better ones in the offseason. 

...that we'll complain about the same way next offseason and keep the rebuild process going for eternity.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:

He brought us something Rhule never did :  COMPETENCE 

Fixed.

He may not have been good enough to get the full time gig, but he was at least a qualified NFL coach.

[Carl Spackler]

OK.

Following up: how much did a meaningless division title, meaningless playoff appearance and meaningless first playoff win in 9 years hurt the Panthers more in 2014, than a 5-11 record and the once-in-a-lifetime chance to change the course of team history by selecting WR Kevin White or DT Danny Shelton?

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

Yet we are still back to square one and still talking about the draft, just picking a few spots lower.

It was nice that Joe Bob and Mary Alice got to cheer for the Panthers before switching into their other teams jersey, I guess.

It is not like we were making any noise in the playoffs anyway. Wilkes screwed us for personal gain, there is no upside. 

That is so stupid logic. Wilkes didn't try to win for his own benefit. He was hired as interim coach to win football games. He didn't screw anyone or anybody. He actually showed that our talent was better than we thought as players competed harder and did better under Wilkes. It clearly showed that better coaching will go a long way to improving the current team and there was no reason to start over or blow things up.